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Has anyone else had issues with tax software correctly calculating Part III of Form 1116? I use TurboTax and it seems to be miscalculating my credit limitation.
I had the same issue with TurboTax last year! The problem is that their standard version doesn't handle Form 1116 well. I switched to their "Premier" version which did better, but still had some issues with Part III calculations. H&R Block's premium version ended up handling it correctly for me. The key is making sure you've properly allocated all your deductions between US and foreign income.
Thanks! I'll check out H&R Block. I've already paid for TurboTax though... so frustrating. Do you remember specifically what was wrong with the Part III calculation? I'm wondering if I can manually check and adjust it.
I went through the exact same Form 1116 confusion when I moved to the UK! The instructions are absolutely terrible for newcomers to international tax filing. Just to reinforce what others have said - yes, both UK income tax AND National Insurance contributions qualify for the Foreign Tax Credit. This is explicitly stated in IRS Publication 514. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. For Part II, think of it this way: Part I is about your income, Part II is about the taxes you paid on that income. So your UK salary goes in Part I, and the actual tax amounts withheld (both income tax and NI) go in Part II with the dates they were withheld. One thing I wish someone had told me earlier - keep really good records of your UK payslips and P60 because you'll need the exact amounts and dates for Form 1116. Also, the HMRC website has a great tool that shows you exactly how much income tax vs National Insurance you paid if you need to break it down. The exchange rate thing is annoying but manageable. I used the IRS annual average rates for simplicity since I had regular monthly withholding. If you had any lump sum payments or bonuses, you'd want to use the specific date rate for those. Hang in there - it gets easier once you understand the structure! Next year when you qualify for Form 2555, you'll have more options to optimize your tax situation.
This is incredibly helpful, thank you! I'm also dealing with my first year of international taxes after moving abroad and the whole process feels overwhelming. Quick question about the HMRC tool you mentioned - is that something I can access online with my National Insurance number? I've been trying to piece together my total tax payments from individual payslips but having an official breakdown would be so much easier. Also, regarding the exchange rates - when you say "annual average rates," are you referring to the ones published by the IRS, or do you use a different source? I want to make sure I'm using the right reference so I don't run into issues later. One more thing - did you find that using Form 1116 was definitely better than waiting to use Form 2555 the following year? I'm trying to decide if it's worth the complexity or if I should just pay the extra tax this year and use the exclusion next year when I qualify.
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I feel your pain! Been in a similar situation before. Four months is definitely excessive, especially when you need the money for medical bills. A few things to check: 1. Look for any mail from the IRS - sometimes letters get delayed or lost 2. If you claimed EITC or other credits, they do extra review which adds months 3. Your transcript codes 570/971 that others mentioned usually mean they need to verify something The Taxpayer Advocate Service really can help when you've been waiting this long - they're separate from regular IRS customer service and actually have power to move things along. You can also try contacting your congressman's office like others suggested. Don't give up! Your refund is coming, the system is just painfully slow right now. Keep checking that transcript for any new codes or dates.
This is really helpful advice! I'm in a similar situation - filed in March and still waiting. The medical bills part really hits home because that's exactly why I need my refund too. Going to try the Taxpayer Advocate Service route since I've been waiting over 4 months now. Thanks for breaking down the options so clearly!
One warning about cost segregation - the IRS has been increasing scrutiny of these studies in recent years. Make sure whoever does yours is legit and has engineering credentials. I've seen people try to DIY this and get absolutely hammered in audits.
Definitely agree with this! My brother tried to save money by using some online template for cost segregation and got audited. Ended up owing way more plus penalties. Sometimes you really do get what you pay for.
@Yara Khalil This is so important to emphasize! I work in tax preparation and see way too many people try to cut corners on cost segregation studies. The IRS specifically looks for certain qualifications - the engineer needs to be licensed and the study needs to follow specific methodologies. A proper study should include detailed engineering analysis, site visits, construction drawings review, and compliance with IRS guidelines. Yes, it costs more upfront, but it s'essentially audit insurance. The savings from accelerated depreciation are only beneficial if they hold up under scrutiny. For anyone considering this strategy, ask potential providers about their audit defense guarantee and make sure they have actual engineering credentials, not just tax credentials.
Great discussion here! As someone who's been through a similar conversion, I wanted to add a few practical points. First, don't forget about the "material participation" tests beyond just Real Estate Professional status - there are 7 different tests you can meet, and some are easier than others depending on your situation. For the Airbnb conversion specifically, document EVERYTHING. Keep logs of time spent on guest communication, cleaning coordination, maintenance, marketing, etc. The IRS loves detailed records, especially for short-term rental activities since they're often more hands-on than traditional rentals. One thing that caught me off guard: if you're doing cost segregation on a duplex where only one unit becomes an Airbnb, you'll need to track the depreciation schedules separately for each unit since they have different business purposes. It's not complicated, but it's something to plan for. Also consider the state tax implications - some states treat short-term rentals differently than long-term rentals for tax purposes, which could affect your overall strategy. Worth checking with a local CPA who understands your state's rules.
As someone who just joined this community and is navigating my first tax season as an independent filer, this post and all the responses have been incredibly educational! I literally had my transcript open in another tab with an 846 code showing a date next Friday, and I was about to ask the exact question you're talking about. Reading through everyone's explanations really drives home how clear the information actually is once you understand what you're looking at. I think the issue for newcomers like me is that we're so used to things being complicated with the IRS that we assume there must be some hidden complexity we're missing, even when the answer is right there. The banking processing time explanations are especially helpful - knowing that direct deposits might take 1-2 extra days after the 846 date gives me realistic expectations instead of refreshing my bank account obsessively on Friday. Thanks for the reality check, and thanks to everyone who took the time to break down how this all works!
I'm in the exact same boat as you! Just filed independently for the first time this year and was completely lost when I first looked at my transcript. All those codes and numbers made it look like some kind of secret government language. I actually spent way too much time googling "what does 846 mean on IRS transcript" before finding this community. It's honestly such a relief to know I'm not the only one who found this confusing at first - when you're dealing with the IRS for the first time, you definitely expect everything to be way more complicated than it actually is. Thanks for sharing your experience, it makes me feel way less silly about almost posting the exact same question everyone's talking about! š
I'm brand new to this whole tax thing and honestly, this entire thread has been like a masterclass in reading transcripts! I literally have my transcript pulled up right now showing an 846 code with a date for next Wednesday, and I was 100% about to make one of those posts asking "so when will I actually get my money?" It's embarrassing how obvious it seems now that everyone's explained it, but when you're staring at a government document full of random codes and numbers for the first time, it really does feel like there must be some hidden complexity you're missing. I kept thinking "surely it can't be THAT simple, right?" Thanks for the reality check (even with the eye-rolling š ) and thanks to everyone who took the time to explain the banking processing times and everything else. This community seems awesome for helping newcomers figure out all this confusing tax stuff. Now I can stop obsessively checking my bank account and just wait for Wednesday... plus 1-2 days for my bank to process it!
Welcome to the community! I'm also pretty new to all this tax stuff and had the exact same experience when I first saw my transcript - it really does look like some kind of secret code until someone explains what you're looking at. Don't feel embarrassed at all, I think most of us have been exactly where you are right now! It's actually kind of funny how we all seem to have the same thought process: "this seems too simple, there must be a catch somewhere." But nope, the IRS really did make this one thing pretty straightforward - when you see that 846 code with a date, that's genuinely when they're sending your refund. Just remember what everyone mentioned about banking delays so you don't panic if it doesn't show up exactly on Wednesday. Thanks for sharing your experience, it makes me feel less alone in initially being confused by something that's apparently pretty basic once you know what to look for! š
Isabella Costa
Has anyone used an online service like Zillow or local property tax records to figure out the historical value? I inherited a house from my grandmother in 2012 and the lawyer handling the estate didn't get an appraisal at the time. Now I'm selling and have no idea how to document what it was worth back then.
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StarSurfer
ā¢I used my county's property records website which had assessment values going back 15 years. While assessments are usually lower than market value, my accountant said we could use that as a starting point and apply a standard multiplier (in our case 1.2x) to estimate market value. Also found some comparables from old real estate listings that had sold around the same time/area.
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Isabella Costa
ā¢Thx for the tip! Just checked my county records and they do have the assessments from 2012. Gonna try to find that multiplier for my area. Maybe I can also check with some long-time realtors who might remember what the market was doing back then. This is all so much more complicated than I expected!
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Amara Adeyemi
One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is that you might want to consider the timing of your sale carefully. If this puts you into a higher income bracket for the year, you could end up paying the 20% long-term capital gains rate instead of 15%. Also, since you mentioned this is for your kid's college, look into whether your state offers any tax advantages for education expenses that might offset some of the capital gains. Some states allow you to contribute to 529 plans and get state tax deductions, which could help reduce your overall tax burden. Make sure you keep detailed records of all the property taxes you've paid over the 20 years too - while these don't add to your basis, they can sometimes be deducted in the year of sale depending on how the closing is structured.
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Paolo Rizzo
ā¢Great point about timing the sale strategically! I hadn't thought about how this might bump me into a higher tax bracket. Since we're not in a huge rush to sell (college is still 2 years away), maybe I should look at spreading this out somehow or timing it for a lower-income year. The 529 plan idea is really smart too - our state does offer deductions for contributions. Even if I can't avoid all the capital gains tax, at least I could get some benefit on the state level when I put the proceeds toward education. Quick question - when you mention property taxes being deductible in the year of sale, do you mean the taxes I've already paid over the years, or just the current year's taxes that get prorated at closing?
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