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I'm in a very similar situation right now - collecting donations through my Zelle account for a coworker whose family was in a car accident. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful, especially the specific advice about Form 8275 and the documentation requirements. One thing I want to add from my research: make sure you transfer the funds as quickly as possible after receiving them. The IRS looks at how long money stayed in your account when determining whether you had "control" over it. The faster you move it to the intended recipient, the stronger your case that you were just a conduit. Also, for anyone dealing with this situation, consider setting up the official fundraiser (GoFundMe, etc.) BEFORE you start collecting donations if possible. It's much cleaner from a tax perspective if people donate directly to the platform rather than going through your personal accounts first. @Nick - definitely keep every screenshot, text message, and email that shows the donations were intended for your sister, not you. The IRS will want to see evidence of intent if they ever question this.
This is such great advice about timing! I wish I had known about the "control" factor when I was dealing with a similar situation last year. I held onto donations for almost a week while figuring out how to set up the GoFundMe, and it definitely made my documentation more complicated. @Dana - your point about setting up the official fundraiser first is spot on. I learned this the hard way when my neighbor's medical bills started piling up and people just started Venmo-ing me money before I had anything organized. Would have saved so much paperwork hassle if I'd been proactive about it. For anyone reading this thread who might face this situation in the future: seriously consider just directing people to donate directly to established platforms from day one. The extra step of money flowing through your personal accounts creates tax complications that are totally avoidable with a little planning.
This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm dealing with something similar where I collected about $8,500 through my personal Venmo for a neighbor's house fire, then transferred it all to their official fundraiser. One thing I want to emphasize that I learned from my accountant: keep a detailed spreadsheet showing EVERY transaction with dates, amounts, donor names (if available), and transfer details. The IRS wants to see a clear money trail that proves you never commingled these funds with your personal money or used them for anything else. Also, when you transfer the money to GoFundMe, make sure to do it in chunks that match your Venmo deposits as closely as possible. Don't just transfer one lump sum - it makes the paper trail harder to follow. I transferred mine in 3-4 batches over a few days, keeping screenshots of each transfer. @Nick - since you mentioned you kept detailed records, make sure those records include the PURPOSE of each donation if donors mentioned it in their Venmo messages. Having evidence that people explicitly stated the money was "for your sister's family" or "for the fire victims" really strengthens your case that this was never intended as income to you personally.
This is really solid advice about the spreadsheet documentation! I'm just starting to deal with a similar situation where I collected donations for a family whose mom was diagnosed with cancer. One question about the transfer timing - you mentioned doing it in chunks that match the Venmo deposits. Did you transfer each individual donation separately, or did you group similar amounts together? I have like 40+ small donations ranging from $25-200, so I'm wondering if transferring each one individually would be overkill or if that's actually what the IRS expects to see. Also, @Ethan, when you say keep donor names "if available" - what do you do when someone just sends money with no message or just their Venmo username? Should I be reaching out to ask people what the donation was for, or is it obvious enough from the context?
Don't forget about education credits too! Since he's in college and you're claiming him as a dependent, YOU would be the one eligible to claim any education credits for his expenses (like the American Opportunity Credit) on your return, not him. Could be worth up to $2,500 if he has qualified education expenses.
This is super important! My sister claimed my niece who was in college and completely missed out on the American Opportunity Credit because she didn't know about it. Left like $2000 on the table!
Based on what you've described, you should definitely be able to claim your brother as a dependent! Since he's 19 and a full-time college student, he can qualify as a "qualifying child" rather than just a "qualifying relative" - which is actually better for you because there's no gross income limit for qualifying children under 24 who are students. The key tests you need to meet are: 1. Relationship - β (he's your brother) 2. Age - β (under 24 and full-time student) 3. Residency - β (lived with you more than half the year since February) 4. Support - β (sounds like you're covering all his major expenses) His $9k income won't disqualify him since he's a student under 24. Just make sure when he files his own return that he checks the box indicating someone else can claim him as a dependent. And definitely keep good records of all the support you're providing - rent, utilities, food, etc. - in case you ever need to prove you're covering more than half his total support for the year. You're being really generous helping him get started in life!
This is really helpful, thanks! I'm new to all this tax stuff and wasn't sure about the difference between "qualifying child" vs "qualifying relative." So since he's under 24 and in school, the qualifying child rules are actually more favorable? One quick question - when you say "full-time student," does that mean he has to be enrolled full-time for the entire year, or just for part of it? He was finishing high school when he moved in with me in February, then started college full-time in the fall. Does that gap between high school and college affect anything?
One thing to remember is that even with zero income/expenses, if your foundation has assets (like money in a bank account), you'll still need to report those on the balance sheet section of the 990-PF. Many first-time filers get hung up on the income portions being zero but forget about reporting the assets. Also, don't forget the minimum distribution requirements for private foundations! Even if you had no income this year, you might still be required to distribute 5% of your investment assets. If you truly have zero assets and zero income, that's different, but make sure you're clear on which situation applies to you.
This is such an important point! My "inactive" foundation still had a bank account with funds in it, and I completely overlooked the distribution requirements the first year. Ended up having to pay a penalty. Definitely recommend anyone with a private foundation to understand these rules even in years with no income.
As someone who's dealt with this exact situation, I completely understand your frustration! The key issue you're running into is that the 990-PF has mandatory sections that must be completed even with zero activity - you can't just leave them blank. For TurboTax Nonprofit, try entering "$0" explicitly in those flagged fields instead of leaving them empty. The software often interprets blank fields as incomplete rather than zero. Also, make sure you're filling out Part VIII (Information About Officers, Directors, etc.) completely - this section is required regardless of financial activity. That said, if you continue having issues with TurboTax, you might want to consider switching to software specifically designed for 990-PF forms. The general tax software packages sometimes struggle with the unique requirements of private foundation returns, especially for inactive organizations. One last tip - double-check that you actually need to file a 990-PF and not a 990-EZ or 990-N. The filing requirements depend on your foundation's gross receipts and total assets, not just current year activity. If you qualify for a simpler form, that might solve your headache entirely!
This is really helpful advice! I'm actually the original poster and I think you've hit on exactly what was driving me crazy with TurboTax. I was leaving fields blank thinking that was correct for "no activity" but it sounds like I need to explicitly enter $0 instead. Quick question - for Part VIII about officers and directors, do I need to list compensation even if no one received any payment this year? Our board members are all volunteers and literally no money changed hands, but I want to make sure I'm not missing something that could trigger more errors. Also, you mentioned checking if I qualify for 990-EZ or 990-N instead - our foundation has about $15,000 in assets sitting in a bank account but zero income/expenses this year. Would that still require the full 990-PF or might there be a simpler option?
Has anyone had experience with getting a refund of the withholding later? I've heard the Canadian seller can file for a refund if the actual tax liability is less than what was withheld, but curious how complicated that process is.
Yes, the seller can file Form 8288-B (Application for Withholding Certificate) before closing OR file a US tax return after the sale to claim a refund for any excess withholding. But it can take 6+ months to get the money back, so most foreign sellers I've worked with prefer to apply for the withholding certificate beforehand if possible.
Thanks for the info! I'll pass this along to the seller. Since we're closing next week, sounds like they'd have to go the tax return route at this point. I'll make sure they know about the long wait time for the refund too.
I just went through this exact situation 6 months ago when buying from a Canadian seller! The stress is real, but you'll get through it. A few things that might help: First, definitely confirm with your title company what their role is here. In my case, they handled the actual withholding and filing - I just had to provide the buyer information and sign off on the calculations. They should NOT be dumping all of this on you at the last minute. Second, double-check if you qualify for the primary residence exemption. If this will be your main home and the purchase price is under $1 million, you should only need to withhold 10% (or 0% if under $300k). That could save you thousands. The form itself isn't as scary as it looks once you understand what goes where. The key boxes are pretty straightforward - your info, seller info, property address, purchase price, and withholding amount. Don't let them rush you into making mistakes because of their poor planning. You have every right to push back on the timeline if they're not providing proper support. This is a standard part of foreign seller transactions and they should have processes in place to handle it smoothly. Hang in there - you're almost at the finish line!
This is such helpful advice! I'm actually going through something similar right now - my title company just informed me about FIRPTA requirements for my purchase from a German seller. It's so frustrating when they wait until the last minute to mention these major requirements. Did you end up having any issues with the IRS processing your Form 8288-A? I'm worried about potential delays or rejections that could mess up my closing timeline. Also, when you say the title company handled the "actual withholding" - does that mean they held the funds in escrow until the form was filed, or did they send the payment directly to the IRS?
Dylan Baskin
Heads up - don't forget state tax implications too! My S-Corp has owners in 3 different states and each state has different rules about estimated payments. Some require the S-Corp to make composite payments on behalf of non-resident shareholders, while others require each shareholder to file their own estimated payments. This created a huge mess for us at tax time last year because we didn't plan properly. Had to pay penalties in two states.
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Jay Lincoln
β’Ugh, I hadn't even thought about the state tax angle. We have owners in California, New York and Florida. Does anyone know how to handle this multi-state situation effectively?
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Ally Tailer
β’Multi-state S-Corp taxation can be really tricky! For your situation with CA, NY, and FL owners, here's what you need to know: California typically requires the S-Corp to make composite payments for non-resident owners, OR the non-resident owners can elect to file their own CA returns. New York has similar composite payment options but the rules are different. Florida has no state income tax, so your FL owner is lucky there. The key is to check each state's specific S-Corp filing requirements early in the year. Some states have different deadlines for composite vs. individual estimated payments. You'll probably want to work with a multi-state tax specialist rather than trying to navigate this yourself - the penalties for getting it wrong can be substantial. I learned this the hard way with our multi-state partnership. Don't make the same mistake!
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Mohamed Anderson
One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is the importance of establishing clear procedures early in the year for tracking each owner's quarterly payments. We learned this lesson the hard way when tax season came around and nobody could remember who had paid what. I'd recommend creating a shared spreadsheet or using accounting software to track each partner's quarterly payments throughout the year. Include columns for each owner's projected annual tax liability, quarterly payment amounts, actual payment dates, and any adjustments made based on updated income projections. Also, make sure your S-Corp provides regular profit updates to all owners (at least quarterly, preferably monthly if income is volatile). This allows each owner to adjust their estimated payments if the business is performing significantly better or worse than projected. The last thing you want is for someone to underpay all year because they were working off stale projections. Consider having a brief quarterly meeting where you review actual vs. projected income and discuss any needed adjustments to individual estimated payments. It takes maybe 30 minutes but can save everyone from penalties and surprises at tax time.
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Ava Williams
β’This is excellent advice! As someone who's new to S-Corp ownership, I hadn't even thought about the tracking aspect. Do you have any recommendations for specific accounting software that handles multi-owner S-Corp quarterly payment tracking well? Also, regarding those quarterly meetings you mentioned - do you typically have the S-Corp's accountant participate in those discussions, or is it more of an internal partner meeting? I'm wondering if having professional guidance during those quarterly reviews would be worth the extra cost.
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