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I'm on week 3 waiting for mine too! Called the 800-830-5084 number yesterday and they said if it's been more than 4 weeks you can request they send another one. The rep also mentioned checking your online IRS account to see if there's an option to verify through ID.me instead of waiting for the letter. Might be worth looking into if you're getting anxious about the wait like I am!
This W4 Box 2c confusion is so common! I work as a tax preparer and see this exact scenario multiple times every tax season. You're absolutely right that the mismatch caused your underpayment issue. Here's what happened: When you checked Box 2c, your employer's payroll system adjusted your withholding to account for having two working spouses with similar incomes. But when your husband didn't check it, his employer withheld taxes as if he was the sole breadwinner supporting a non-working spouse - which means much less tax was taken out of his paychecks. For 2026, definitely have your husband submit a new W4 with Box 2c checked. Since you both earn around $65k, this should solve most of the problem. However, I'd also recommend running the numbers through the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator mid-year to make sure you're on track, especially since you mentioned these were new jobs in 2024. One tip: if you want to be extra safe and avoid any surprises, you could have a small additional amount withheld from one of your paychecks using Step 4(c) - maybe $50-100 per month. This creates a small buffer without significantly impacting your monthly budget.
This is really helpful, thank you! As someone new to dealing with W4 issues, I appreciate the clear explanation of what went wrong. The idea of adding a small buffer amount in Step 4(c) sounds smart - better to get a small refund than owe a big bill! Quick question though - when you say "run the numbers through the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator mid-year," about what time of year would be best to do this? Should we wait until we have a few months of paystubs from the corrected W4, or do it sooner?
I'd recommend doing the mid-year check around June or July, after you've had at least 2-3 months of paystubs with the corrected W4. This gives you enough data to see the actual withholding amounts, but still leaves you with 5-6 months to make additional adjustments if needed. The timing is important because you want to catch any issues early enough to fix them, but not so early that you don't have reliable data from the new withholding settings. Plus, doing it in summer gives you time to submit another W4 adjustment before the busy fall season if the numbers show you're still off track. @Ravi Sharma One more thing - when you do run the estimator, make sure to have your most recent paystubs handy, along with last year s'tax return if your situation is similar. The tool will ask for year-to-date withholding amounts, so having that info ready makes the process much smoother.
This thread has been incredibly helpful - I had no idea the W4 Box 2c could cause such issues! My partner and I are planning to get married next year and we both work (I make about $58k, they make about $62k). Based on what everyone's shared here, it sounds like we'll need to both check Box 2c when we update our W4s to "married filing jointly" status. But I'm curious - should we wait to make this change until after we're actually married, or can we update our W4s as soon as we know we'll be married for tax purposes? Also, since our incomes are pretty close to what Jacob and his husband earn, would it make sense to also add that small buffer amount in Step 4(c) that Keisha suggested? I'd rather be safe than sorry after reading about everyone's surprise tax bills!
Great question! You should wait to change your W4 to "married filing jointly" status until you're actually legally married, since your tax filing status is determined by your marital status on December 31st of the tax year. However, you can start planning now by running some estimates. Since your incomes are very similar to Jacob's situation ($58k vs $62k compared to his $65k each), you'll definitely want both of you to check Box 2c once you update to married status. The small buffer in Step 4(c) is also a smart idea - maybe $75-100 per month total between both of your paychecks. One thing to consider: if you get married partway through the year, your withholding for the first part of the year will be at single rates, which typically withhold more than married rates. This might actually work in your favor and help avoid underpayment, but you'll want to run the IRS estimator after you update your W4s post-marriage to make sure everything balances out for the full year.
Has anyone here actually used the Schedule E for rental income before? I'm still confused about where to report the income if we do form an LLC. Is it still Schedule E or do we have to use a different form?
It depends on how your LLC is taxed. If it's a single-member LLC (disregarded entity), you report on Schedule E. If it's a multi-member LLC taxed as a partnership, you'll get a K-1 from the partnership's 1065 return and then report that on your Schedule E. At least that's how we've done it for our beach house rental.
Just wanted to add some clarity on the QJV election since there seems to be some confusion in the thread. The Qualified Joint Venture election under Section 761(f) is actually quite specific - it's available to married couples who jointly own an unincorporated business and choose to be treated as a QJV instead of a partnership. The key point is "unincorporated business" - this means no LLC, no corporation, just direct ownership. If you form any type of entity (single-member LLC, multi-member LLC, etc.), you cannot make the QJV election. For your inherited rental property situation, here's what I'd consider: If liability protection is important (which it usually is with rental properties), the LLC route makes sense. A single-member LLC would be disregarded for tax purposes, so you'd report everything on your Schedule E. Your spouse could be involved in management without being a formal member. If you want both spouses to have formal ownership recognition, then a multi-member LLC taxed as a partnership might be better, though it does require filing Form 1065 and issuing K-1s. The QJV election is really more useful for businesses like consulting or other service businesses where spouses want to split self-employment income for Social Security credits, not typically for rental properties.
This is exactly the kind of clear explanation I was looking for! Thank you for breaking down the Section 761(f) requirements so clearly. I think I was getting confused between the QJV election and just having both spouses involved in an LLC. Given that this is an inherited rental property and liability protection is definitely a concern, it sounds like the LLC route makes the most sense. I'm leaning toward the single-member LLC option since it keeps things simpler for tax reporting, and my wife can still be involved in management decisions without needing to be a formal member. One follow-up question though - if I go with a single-member LLC in my name, does that create any issues with the stepped-up basis I received when I inherited the property? I want to make sure transferring it to the LLC doesn't trigger any unintended tax consequences.
Has anyone used those donation receipt tracking apps? I tried ItsDeductible last year and it was ok but not great for higher value items.
I've been using Charitable for a few years and it's pretty good for tracking regular donations. Integrates with my bank account to catch recurring donations automatically. But for non-cash stuff over $500, I still have my accountant double-check everything.
Your 18% donation rate is actually quite reasonable and shouldn't be a red flag by itself. I've seen clients donate 25-30% of windfalls without issues, especially when it's a one-time event like a property sale. The most important thing is having proper documentation for each donation. Since you mentioned keeping all receipts, make sure you have written acknowledgments from each charity for donations of $250 or more. These need to include the donation amount, date, and a statement that no goods or services were provided in exchange (or describe what was provided). One tip for future years: if you're planning to continue higher donation levels, consider establishing a pattern by documenting your charitable giving philosophy or creating a simple giving plan. This shows intentionality rather than randomness, which auditors prefer to see. The fact that TurboTax isn't flagging anything is also a good sign - their built-in audit risk assessment is pretty conservative. Your documentation sounds solid, so I wouldn't stress too much about it.
This is really helpful advice! I'm curious about the "giving plan" you mentioned. Does this need to be something formal or just a simple document showing my intentions? Also, when you say "written acknowledgments" - do emails from the charities count, or does it need to be physical letters? I have a mix of both and want to make sure I'm covered if questioned.
Diego Rojas
Just curious - roughly how much money are we talking about here? Like is this a few hundred dollars difference in the credit or thousands? I'm wondering because the level of concern probably should match the scale of the issue.
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Javier Torres
ā¢It's about $2,800 difference in the credit. The daycare gave me documentation showing I paid around $9,500 for the year when I actually paid closer to $5,200. I should have caught it but I was rushing to file and just used what they gave me. I'm more worried about the principle than the amount though - I don't want to be associated with any kind of tax fraud.
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Anastasia Sokolov
ā¢$2,800 is definitely enough that you should fix it. The IRS does have thresholds for what they pursue but that's well above most of them. Better to correct it now than have them discover it later.
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Beatrice Marshall
I really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences here. As someone who went through a similar correction process a few years ago, I want to emphasize that the IRS actually has clear guidance for situations exactly like this. The key distinction is between "mistake" and "fraud" - fraud requires intent. When you filed based on documentation provided by your daycare, you had no intent to deceive. The fact that you're coming forward voluntarily after discovering the error actually works strongly in your favor. For a $2,800 difference, definitely file the amended return with a clear explanation. I'd suggest wording it something like: "Amended to correct child care credit amount based on actual payments made. Original filing was based on documentation provided by childcare provider that was later discovered to be incorrect. Taxpayer is voluntarily correcting upon discovery of discrepancy." Include your actual receipts/bank statements showing what you paid, and file as soon as possible. The IRS generally views voluntary corrections very favorably, especially when you're paying additional tax owed. You'll likely just pay the difference plus interest - penalties are uncommon for good faith corrections. Don't let anxiety keep you from sleep over this. You're handling it exactly the right way.
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