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Watch out for the once-per-year rollover rule too! If you've done any other IRA rollovers within the past 12 months, you might not be eligible to correct this through a standard rollover. This tripped me up badly with my dad's estate. The good news is that trustee-to-trustee transfers don't count toward this limit. But if what happened was the trustee distributed the money to the trust account first (not directly to another IRA custodian), you're dealing with a rollover situation and that one-per-year limit applies.
Does the once-per-year rule apply to inherited IRAs though? I thought those had different rules.
I'm dealing with something similar right now and wanted to share what I've learned so far. The distinction between "transfer" and "rollover" is crucial here - a transfer should happen directly between custodians without the money ever touching your hands or the trust account, while a rollover involves you receiving the distribution and then redepositing it within 60 days. If the trustee actually received the IRA funds into the trust account instead of doing a direct custodian-to-custodian transfer, that's definitely a taxable event. But there might still be hope! I've been researching Revenue Procedure 2020-46 (which updated the 2016 version mentioned earlier) and it does provide relief for certain trustee errors. The key is proving this was the trustee's mistake, not a choice you made. Get documentation from them ASAP admitting they processed this incorrectly. Also, check exactly when this happened - if it's been less than 60 days, you might still be able to do an indirect rollover to fix it. One thing that's been helpful for me is keeping a detailed timeline of all communications with the trustee. The IRS wants to see that you acted reasonably and that this wasn't intentional tax avoidance. Good luck - these trust/IRA situations are incredibly confusing but there are usually options available!
This is really helpful - thank you for breaking down the transfer vs rollover distinction so clearly! I'm completely new to this and honestly didn't even know there was a difference. One question - you mentioned getting documentation from the trustee admitting they made a mistake. Should I be asking for something specific in writing, or just any acknowledgment that they processed it wrong? I'm worried about how to phrase this request without making them defensive or unwilling to help fix the situation. Also, when you say "indirect rollover," does that mean I would need to have the actual cash available to redeposit? Because if taxes were already withheld from the distribution, I'm not sure I'd have the full original amount to put back in.
Great questions! For the documentation, you want something in writing that specifically states they failed to follow proper IRA distribution procedures. I'd suggest asking for a letter that says something like "We acknowledge that the IRA distribution from [Trust Name] on [Date] was processed as a direct distribution rather than the intended direct trustee-to-trustee transfer." Don't worry about making them defensive - this is actually a liability issue for them too, so most trustees will cooperate once they understand the tax implications. Regarding the indirect rollover and withholding - this is where it gets tricky. Yes, you'd need to deposit the full original IRA amount, even if taxes were withheld. So if the IRA was worth $100,000 but they withheld $20,000 for taxes, you'd still need to deposit the full $100,000 to avoid taxation on the $20,000 shortfall. You'd then claim the withheld amount as a credit when you file your tax return. This is exactly why the Revenue Procedure waiver route might be better than trying to do an indirect rollover - it can potentially undo the whole mess without requiring you to come up with extra cash. Definitely worth exploring both options with the IRS directly.
Did you claim any credits like EIC or Child Tax Credit? Those automatically get extra scrutiny and slow down processing.
Nope, just a simple return with W2 income and standard deduction. That's why I'm confused about the delay.
I'm in a very similar situation - filed on March 8th and still getting that same "processing delayed" message with Tax Topic 152. My transcript has been completely blank for 7 weeks now. What's really frustrating is that I had a simple return too - just W2 income, standard deduction, no credits or complications. I've been checking the WMR tool almost daily and it's maddening to see the same message over and over. Like you, I'm starting to wonder if something went wrong or if my return got lost in the system somehow. The fact that the transcript shows absolutely nothing is what worries me most. Reading through these comments has been really helpful though - especially learning about ERS (Error Resolution System) from the former IRS employee. At least now I understand this is unfortunately normal for this filing season, even though it's incredibly stressful when you're waiting on your refund. I think I'm going to wait until I hit the 8-week mark before trying to call, based on the advice here. The phone situation sounds absolutely brutal right now. Has anyone had success getting through recently, or is it still basically impossible?
I'm dealing with the exact same thing! Filed March 12th and it's been 6+ weeks of that same frustrating message. The blank transcript is what gets me too - like did they even receive it? From what I've read here, it seems like this ERS queue situation is just the reality this year. I tried calling twice last week and couldn't get through after 2+ hours on hold each time. Thinking I might try that Claimyr thing people mentioned if I don't see any movement by week 8. At least knowing other people are in the same boat makes me feel less crazy for checking the WMR tool every single day š The waiting is the worst part when you have no idea what's actually happening behind the scenes.
Did anyone mention that you'll probably receive a 1099-R form from the insurance company? That form will show the taxable amount in Box 2a. If it says "Taxable amount not determined" and Box 2b is checked, you'll need to figure out the taxable portion yourself or with professional help. Also, depending on when your grandfather passed away, there might be estate tax considerations too, although that's only for very large estates (over $12.06 million for 2025).
I'm dealing with a similar situation right now with my grandmother's annuity, and one thing that really helped me was getting organized with all the paperwork first. Make sure you have copies of everything - the original annuity contract, death certificate, beneficiary designation forms, and any correspondence from the insurance company. The insurance company should provide you with a detailed breakdown showing the original premium payments (your grandfather's contributions) versus the accumulated earnings. This is crucial for determining what portion is taxable. Don't be afraid to call them multiple times if the first representative can't give you clear answers - I had to speak with three different people before I got someone who really understood the tax implications. Also, consider the timing of when you take the distribution. If you're expecting a raise or bonus this year that might push you into a higher tax bracket, it might make sense to delay the distribution until next year. The insurance company usually gives you some flexibility on timing as long as you stay within the required distribution rules. One last tip - keep detailed records of everything for your tax preparer. This isn't something you want to handle with basic tax software if it's a substantial amount.
This is really solid advice about getting organized first! I'm just starting to deal with this whole situation and honestly feeling pretty overwhelmed by all the paperwork. Quick question - when you say "required distribution rules," are there specific deadlines I need to be worried about? The insurance company mentioned something about distribution options but I haven't had time to dig into the details yet. Also, did you end up using a tax preparer or were you able to handle it yourself once you got all the information sorted out?
I've been following this discussion and wanted to share my recent experience with amended returns and that confusing "As of" date. I filed my amendment back in May and went through the exact same confusion about what all these dates meant. What I discovered after months of monitoring my transcript is that the "As of" date essentially shows when the IRS computer system expects to complete the next processing step on your account. It's not a guarantee they'll finish on that exact date, but more like their internal scheduling system. In my case, the date kept moving forward by about 2-3 weeks each time it updated, which initially made me think they were just pushing my return back indefinitely. But then I learned this is actually normal - as each department finishes their review, the system reschedules the next step and updates that date accordingly. The key breakthrough for me was understanding that amended returns don't follow the same timeline as original returns. They go through completely different departments and have to be manually reviewed by actual humans rather than just processed by computers. That's why the timeline is so much longer and less predictable. My amendment finally completed last month after about 18 weeks, and looking back, I can see how each "As of" date change actually corresponded to my return moving through different stages of review. I wish the IRS would just explain this stuff clearly instead of leaving us all to decode their cryptic system!
This is exactly what I needed to hear! I'm about 14 weeks into my amended return process and have been watching those date changes with a mixture of hope and dread. Your explanation about the dates corresponding to different review stages makes so much sense - I've been treating each date change like it was a delay when it sounds like it's actually progress. The part about manual human review really puts the timeline into perspective too. I kept comparing my amendment processing time to my original return which was processed automatically in just a few days. No wonder it's taking so much longer! Thanks for sharing your experience - it's reassuring to know that 18 weeks falls within the normal range and that all those date jumps I've been seeing are actually the system working as intended, even if it's frustrating not knowing exactly where things stand.
I've been dealing with a similar amended return situation and all these explanations about the "As of" date are spot on! What really helped me was keeping a simple log of when my "As of" date changed and what codes appeared or disappeared on my transcript at the same time. I noticed that when my "As of" date moved backward (like from October to September), it usually coincided with new transaction codes appearing - which meant they had actually completed a processing step rather than delaying it. The backward movement was counterintuitive but actually indicated progress! One thing I learned from calling the IRS (after multiple attempts) is that the "As of" date sometimes reflects when they plan to issue notices or correspondence, not just processing actions. So if your date keeps pushing out by a few weeks, they might be scheduling a letter to be sent rather than continuously delaying your return. The most important thing is to look at the whole picture - date changes combined with any new codes or account activity - rather than fixating on just that one date. It's definitely anxiety-inducing when you're waiting months for resolution, but the movement really is a positive sign that your amendment hasn't been forgotten in the system!
Amina Bah
My partner and I did this 3 years ago! One tip: consider putting only one person on the mortgage but both on the deed if your bank allows it. That way, only one person claims all the interest but both have ownership. We did this bc my credit score was way better so I got the loan alone (better rate!) but we're both on the deed. The person not on the mortgage can just transfer their share of the payment to the mortgage holder, who then makes the full payment and claims 100% of the deduction. Simplifies taxes a lot! But u need to trust each other obvs.
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Oliver Becker
ā¢Isn't that technically mortgage fraud? I thought the person claiming the deduction has to be legally responsible for the debt. If only one person is on the mortgage, can they really claim 100% even if the other person is paying half?
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CosmicCowboy
ā¢Just a warning - I tried doing this exact arrangement and it backfired on me. When my partner and I split, I had no legal right to the mortgage interest deductions despite paying half the mortgage for years. Also created huge issues when we sold since I was on the deed but not the mortgage. Would not recommend.
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Ava Garcia
Great question! I went through this exact situation two years ago when my partner and I bought our first home. Here's what I learned from working with both a tax professional and mortgage lender: Since you're both on the mortgage and splitting payments 50/50, you can each deduct your proportional share of the mortgage interest on your individual tax returns. Keep detailed records of who pays what - bank statements, cancelled checks, or electronic transfer records showing each person's contribution. One key thing to watch out for: the mortgage lender will send ONE Form 1098 (mortgage interest statement) to whoever is listed as the primary borrower. You'll need to coordinate to ensure you both get the information needed for your tax returns. Some couples scan and share the 1098, others request the lender send copies to both parties. Also, don't forget about property taxes! If you're splitting those 50/50 as well, you can each deduct your portion of property taxes paid, which also goes on Schedule A. Given your combined income of $180k and a $520k mortgage, you'll likely have enough deductions to make itemizing worthwhile. The mortgage interest alone in your first few years will probably exceed the standard deduction threshold. One last tip: consider having a tax pro review your first year's return to make sure you're handling everything correctly. It's worth the cost to get it right from the start!
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Keisha Taylor
ā¢This is really helpful advice! Quick question about the Form 1098 - if the lender only sends it to the primary borrower, do we need to do anything special to make sure the IRS knows we're each claiming our portion? Or is it enough that we each report our share on our individual Schedule A forms? I want to make sure we don't accidentally trigger any red flags by both claiming parts of the same 1098.
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