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Hold on - nobody's talked about franchise taxes yet!! In my state (CA) we pay $800 minimum franchise tax for S-corps REGARDLESS of profit. Then there's a 1.5% tax on net income at the entity level PLUS you pay personal income tax on all passed-through profits. Don't assume your state only has the 2.5% rate you mentioned - there might be hidden fees, franchise taxes, or local business taxes you're not accounting for.
Yep, CA resident here too and that $800 minimum franchise tax is killer for small S-corps. I actually created an LLC for my side business instead of an S-corp because the math worked out better for me with the LLC fee schedule vs the flat $800 for an S-corp. The state-level stuff is where all these "get an S-corp to save on taxes!" advice falls apart.
Great question! As others have mentioned, S-Corp taxation can be tricky at the state level. Here's what you need to know for your situation: Your $160k salary will definitely be subject to the 4.5% individual income tax rate since it's W-2 income. The $40k in business profits will also likely flow through to your personal return and be taxed at 4.5% as well - this is the main benefit of S-Corp pass-through taxation. However, don't assume that 2.5% corporate rate doesn't apply to you at all. Many states have: - Minimum franchise taxes or filing fees for S-Corps - Entity-level taxes on certain types of income - Local business taxes or licensing fees I'd strongly recommend checking with your state's tax department directly or consulting a local CPA who specializes in your state's tax code. Each state handles S-Corps differently, and some have unique rules that could impact your total tax liability. The federal pass-through treatment doesn't always translate perfectly to state level taxation. Also don't forget about the payroll tax savings on that $40k profit - that's one of the main reasons people choose S-Corp structure in the first place!
11 Has anyone successfully updated their W-4 to fix this? My HR department seems completely confused whenever I ask them about adjusting my withholding amount.
5 Yes! The trick is to use line 4(c) on the W-4 form. Don't try to adjust allowances (that system is gone) or explain why - just put the additional dollar amount you want withheld from each paycheck in that box. Your HR folks don't need to understand the tax logic, they just need to input that additional withholding amount.
I feel your frustration! I went through the exact same thing two years ago and was livid about getting penalized for something that seemed like my employer's mistake. But after dealing with it, I learned that we really do need to monitor our withholding throughout the year. What helped me was setting up a simple spreadsheet to track my year-to-date withholding against what I expect to owe. I check it every quarter now. If you're consistently getting refunds, you're probably safe, but if you usually owe money at filing time, that's a red flag that you need more withheld. The penalty calculation is actually pretty forgiving - you only get hit if you owe more than $1,000 AND didn't pay at least 90% of this year's tax or 100% of last year's tax through withholding. So even if your employer messes up slightly, you might still avoid penalties. For next year, I'd recommend using the IRS withholding calculator around mid-year to see if you're on track. It's much better to catch this in July than in April!
The problem isn't just the engagement letters - it's how the entire accounting industry has shifted liability onto clients while charging higher fees. Back in the 90s when I started my business, our CPA took responsibility for their work without all these clauses. Today, they want premium rates while putting all the risk on us. It's ridiculous! They claim to be professionals providing expertise but won't stand behind their work. Doctors can't escape malpractice liability, lawyers can't escape malpractice liability, but somehow accountants have convinced everyone they should be immune. I've started demanding better terms or walking away. If enough small businesses push back, maybe the industry will reconsider these predatory practices.
While I understand your frustration, there are some key differences with the medical and legal analogies. Medical malpractice is usually about physical harm with clear causation. Accounting services involve financial decisions with many variables and frequently changing tax laws. The business environment today is also vastly more complex and litigious than the 90s. Many CPAs have been sued over honest interpretations of ambiguous tax code. That's driving up their insurance costs, which gets reflected in their rates and contract terms. I do agree some push back is warranted though. Just don't expect a return to the good old days - the complexity of modern tax compliance makes that unlikely.
I went through this exact situation last year and ended up finding a middle ground that worked well. After reading through all the liability clauses, I drafted a simple addendum that acknowledged their standard terms while adding reasonable protections. The key was being specific about what I was concerned about. Instead of asking them to remove all liability limitations (which they'd never agree to), I focused on three areas: 1) They remain liable for mathematical errors in calculations, 2) They're responsible for missing obvious deductions they should have caught given the information provided, and 3) Standard exclusions for gross negligence still apply. My CPA was actually relieved I came with specific language rather than just complaining about the engagement letter. They explained that most of their liability concerns come from clients who provide incomplete information or want them to take aggressive positions, not from basic professional competence issues. The conversation went smoothly because I approached it as "let's find terms we're both comfortable with" rather than "your contract is unreasonable." We signed the modified agreement the same day. Sometimes CPAs use broad language because it's easier than customizing terms, but many are willing to negotiate if you show you understand their legitimate concerns too.
Just wanted to add that if your rental property in Spain is producing income, you might also need to look into whether you have a filing requirement for Form 8938 (Statement of Specified Foreign Financial Assets) which is different from the FBAR requirement others mentioned.
I've heard about Form 8938 but thought it was just for bank accounts and investments. Does a physical property like a house count as a "foreign financial asset"?
Actually, a physical rental property itself doesn't count as a "foreign financial asset" for Form 8938 purposes. Form 8938 is specifically for financial accounts and certain financial instruments held by foreign financial institutions. However, if you have rental income being deposited into a Spanish bank account and that account meets the reporting thresholds, then the bank account itself would need to be reported on Form 8938. The thresholds are higher than FBAR - $50,000 on the last day of the year or $75,000 at any time during the year for single filers living in the US. So you could potentially need to file FBAR for the Spanish bank account but not Form 8938, depending on the amounts involved.
This is a really comprehensive discussion already, but I wanted to add one practical tip that helped me with my rental in Italy. When converting your rental income from euros to USD, make sure you use the correct exchange rates for tax purposes - the IRS expects you to use either the daily exchange rate on the day you received the income, or you can use an average annual rate if you receive income regularly throughout the year. I initially made the mistake of just using whatever rate my bank applied during transfers, but that's not necessarily what the IRS wants to see. The Treasury Department publishes annual average exchange rates that you can use, which makes the conversion much simpler if you're getting monthly rental payments. Also, keep detailed records of all your expenses in the original currency AND the USD conversion. The IRS can ask for documentation, and having everything properly converted and documented from the start will save you major headaches if you ever get audited. I learned this lesson when preparing my taxes last year - organization is key with foreign rental properties!
Logan Stewart
The banking community has been shifting toward early deposits as a competitive feature. Online banks like Chime and SoFi have been doing this for years, advertising "get paid up to 2 days early" with direct deposits. Traditional banks like Chase are finally catching up. Unlike payroll which follows a predictable schedule, tax refunds come in batches from the Treasury, so the timing can vary. Compared to previous tax seasons, the IRS seems to be processing returns more efficiently this year despite the initial delays in January.
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Vera Visnjic
This is really interesting timing! I'm a newcomer here but have been dealing with similar confusion. My Chase account also got an early deposit this week - was expecting it on 4/26 based on WMR but it showed up on 4/23. I've been with Chase for about 3 years and this is definitely the first time they've deposited early. It's actually causing me some stress because I had automatic bill payments scheduled based on the original date, and now I'm worried about potential overdrafts if I miscalculated. Has anyone else had issues with their budgeting because of these unexpected early deposits? I'm wondering if I should call Chase to understand their new policy better.
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Natasha Petrova
ā¢Welcome to the community! I totally understand your stress about the timing changes - it's really frustrating when banks change policies without clear communication to customers. You're definitely not alone in this experience. I'd suggest calling Chase customer service to get clarification on their new early deposit policy, and maybe consider setting up account alerts so you get notifications when deposits hit. That way you can adjust your automatic payments accordingly. It might also be worth keeping a small buffer in your checking account during tax season going forward since it sounds like this early deposit thing might be their new normal. Hope this helps ease some of the worry!
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