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AstroAlpha

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As someone who's dealt with this exact scenario multiple times, I can confirm that the wash sale situation with RSUs is incredibly frustrating. Here's what I've learned from experience: The key insight is that the sell-to-cover transaction happens automatically and you typically can't control which specific shares are used. Most brokers use FIFO, so if you have shares with adjusted cost basis, there's a good chance some of them were used in the sell-to-cover. What I do now is contact my broker immediately after each vesting event to get a detailed breakdown of: 1. Which shares were actually sold for tax withholding 2. The specific cost basis of those shares 3. Which of my remaining shares have wash sale adjustments This information isn't always obvious in the standard account statements, but most brokers can provide it if you ask specifically. One thing that really helped was setting up automatic alerts 35 days before each vesting date to remind myself not to sell any company stock at a loss. It's not perfect given trading window restrictions, but it's prevented most of the wash sale headaches. Also worth noting - if you're in a high tax bracket, sometimes it's actually better to just hold the RSUs long-term rather than trying to optimize around these wash sale rules. The long-term capital gains treatment can be more valuable than the short-term tax loss harvesting, especially when you factor in the time and complexity involved.

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Gianni Serpent

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This is really solid advice! The 35-day alert idea is brilliant - I never thought about setting up proactive reminders like that. I'm definitely going to implement that system. Your point about contacting the broker immediately after vesting to get the detailed breakdown is something I should have been doing all along. I've been trying to piece together the information from standard statements, which as you said, don't make it clear at all. The comment about high tax brackets and long-term treatment is particularly relevant for me. I'm realizing that between the trading window restrictions, quarterly vesting schedule, and the complexity of tracking all these wash sales, the juice might not be worth the squeeze. The mental bandwidth I'm spending on this could probably be better used elsewhere. Thanks for sharing your real-world experience - it's much more helpful than the theoretical discussions I've been finding online!

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Keisha Brown

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I've been through this exact situation and found that the most practical approach is to work backwards from your Form 1099-B to understand what actually happened. Your broker is required to report the wash sale adjustments, and this will show you exactly which shares had adjusted basis and whether any of those were used in the sell-to-cover transaction. In my experience with similar RSU programs, the 240 shares sold for taxes are typically processed as a separate transaction from your 360 remaining shares, but the wash sale adjustment applies to specific tax lots based on FIFO ordering (unless you've changed your default method). Here's what I'd recommend: Contact your broker's tax department and ask for a "wash sale detail report" for the transactions around your Sep 28 vesting. This will show you exactly which of your remaining shares carry the $8/share cost basis adjustment. One key thing I learned - you don't necessarily need to sell all 360 shares to claim the loss. You only need to sell the specific 250 shares (or whatever subset) that have the adjusted basis. But identifying which ones those are requires getting the detailed lot-level information from your broker. Given the complexity and your trading window restrictions, you might also want to consider whether the tax benefit is worth the administrative headache. Sometimes simplifying your approach (like holding RSUs long-term or avoiding loss harvesting near vesting dates) provides better peace of mind even if it's not perfectly tax-optimized.

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This is exactly the kind of detailed guidance I was looking for! The idea of requesting a "wash sale detail report" from the broker's tax department is something I never would have thought to ask for specifically. That sounds like it would cut through all the confusion about which shares actually have the adjusted basis. Your point about working backwards from the 1099-B is really smart too. I've been trying to figure this out proactively, but you're right that the broker is required to report these adjustments anyway, so I should be able to see exactly what happened once I get those documents. I really appreciate the clarification that I only need to sell the specific shares with adjusted basis, not all remaining shares. That makes the strategy much more manageable, assuming I can actually identify which shares those are. You've definitely got me leaning toward simplifying this whole process. Between the trading windows, quarterly vesting, and all this complexity, I'm starting to think the administrative burden outweighs the tax benefits. Maybe I should just focus on tax loss harvesting with my other investments that don't have these restrictions. Thanks for the practical, experience-based advice - this is incredibly helpful!

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Harper Hill

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6 What about payment processing? I'm starting a similar business and trying to decide between Square, PayPal, and traditional merchant services through my bank. Any recommendations for handling client payments for tax prep services?

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Harper Hill

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10 I use Square for my accounting practice and it's been great. The fees are reasonable (2.6% + 10ยข per transaction) and clients can pay via credit card, Apple Pay, etc. You can even send professional invoices through it. Much better than my bank's merchant services which had monthly minimums and higher rates.

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Harper Hill

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6 Thanks for the suggestion! I was leaning toward Square already but wasn't sure if it was the best option for professional services. Glad to hear it's working well for a similar business. The invoice feature sounds especially useful.

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Adriana Cohn

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As a new tax preparer myself, I've found that Wells Banco Business Choice Checking has worked well for my startup. No monthly fee if you maintain a $500 minimum balance, and they offer 100 free transactions per month which should cover your expected volume easily. One thing I'd add to the great advice already given - consider setting up automatic transfers to move a percentage of each payment into that separate tax savings account. I set mine to transfer 30% of every deposit, and it's been a lifesaver for quarterly payments. Also, don't overlook the importance of having a good relationship with your banker. When tax season gets busy and you need quick answers about deposits or account issues, having someone you can call directly makes a huge difference. Good luck with your new business!

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Mateo Hernandez

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I've been through this exact same situation with my small consulting business! The good news is that you're absolutely allowed to use the same depreciation method for both your books and taxes - there's no legal requirement to keep them separate. Here's what I learned: if you're a small business without outside investors or complex financing arrangements, using tax depreciation (like MACRS) for your books actually makes a lot of sense. It simplifies your record-keeping, reduces accounting costs, and eliminates the risk of making mistakes by tracking two different schedules. The main downside is that accelerated tax depreciation can make your profits look lower on paper in the early years, but for most small businesses, this isn't a real problem. Your bank cares more about cash flow than depreciation methods anyway. My advice: start simple by using the same method for both. You can always change to separate schedules later if your business grows and circumstances change. Don't overthink it - keeping things simple when you're starting out is usually the right approach!

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Everett Tutum

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This is such a common concern for small business owners! I went through the same confusion when I started my landscaping business. The key thing to understand is that using the same depreciation method for both books and taxes is perfectly acceptable and often the smartest choice for small businesses. I've been using MACRS for both my financial records and tax returns for three years now, and it's worked out great. My CPA actually recommended this approach because it keeps things simple and reduces the chance of errors. The only time you really need to consider separate schedules is if you have investors who need to see financials that reflect economic reality rather than tax-optimized numbers. For your situation, I'd say stick with the simple approach - use your tax depreciation schedule for your books too. You can always adjust later if your business grows and you need more sophisticated financial reporting. The time and money you'll save on accounting fees will be worth it!

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StarSurfer

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This is really helpful to hear from someone who's actually been doing this for a few years! I'm in a similar situation with a small service business and was worried I was missing something important by wanting to keep it simple. Did you find that your bank or any other lenders had any issues with using the accelerated depreciation methods when reviewing your financials? I'm applying for a small equipment loan next month and want to make sure my books look reasonable to them.

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Ethan Brown

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Great question! I've actually had to provide financials to three different lenders over the years (equipment loans and a line of credit), and none of them had any issues with my using MACRS depreciation for my books. Banks are used to seeing small businesses use tax depreciation methods - it's actually pretty standard. The key things lenders really focus on are your cash flow, debt-to-income ratios, and overall business trends rather than which specific depreciation method you're using. They understand that small businesses often keep things simple by aligning their book and tax accounting. Just make sure your financial statements are consistent and well-organized when you submit them. If anything, using the same method for both actually makes your records look more professional because everything ties together cleanly. Good luck with your equipment loan application!

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Lucas Turner

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One thing nobody has mentioned yet - be careful about timing your distributions around tax time. I made the mistake of taking a large distribution in early January after a profitable December, but my accountant pointed out it would have been much better to take it in December of the previous tax year because of how it affected my basis calculations. Definitely talk to your CPA about the timing of larger distributions. The actual transfer is simple, but the tax implications can get complex depending on your specific situation and the profitability of your S corp in a given year.

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Kai Rivera

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This is such a good point! I did something similar and it messed up my tax planning. Is there any rule of thumb you follow now for year-end distributions?

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Lucas Turner

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I now follow what my accountant calls the "December check-in." Around mid-December, we look at the company's profitability for the year, my current basis, and my personal tax situation. Then we make a strategic decision about whether to take additional distributions before year-end. The general rule of thumb I follow is to avoid taking distributions in January unless absolutely necessary for cash flow reasons. Most tax advantages tend to favor taking them in December of the previous year, especially if your business was profitable that year. But every situation is different, which is why that year-end planning session with your accountant is so valuable.

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Ethan Davis

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Just want to add my perspective as someone who's been through this learning curve! You're absolutely right that the actual distribution is just a simple bank transfer, but I'd emphasize getting your documentation system set up right from the start. I use a simple Google Sheet to track all my distributions with columns for date, amount, running total, and notes about what triggered the distribution (quarterly profit-sharing, year-end bonus to myself, etc.). This makes it super easy to provide a clean summary to my accountant at tax time. One mistake I made early on was not coordinating with my accountant about distribution timing. Now I send a quick email before any distribution over $10K just to make sure there aren't any tax implications I'm missing. Takes 5 minutes and has saved me headaches. The fact that you're asking these questions upfront shows you're being smart about it. The mechanics are simple, but the tax planning around distributions can get nuanced, especially as your business grows.

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Anna Stewart

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This is really helpful advice! I'm just getting started with my S corp and hadn't thought about coordinating with my accountant for larger distributions. What made you choose $10K as your threshold for checking in? Is that based on any specific tax rule or just a personal comfort level? I like the Google Sheet idea too - seems much more organized than what I was planning to do. Do you also track your salary payments in the same sheet or keep distributions separate?

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Help understanding cost basis with Joint Tenancy and Quit Claim deeds for property sale

I'm dealing with a complicated property situation that I need to figure out for my taxes, and I'm confused about the cost basis. Here's what happened: My grandparents purchased a property together as joint tenants back in 1990. Then in 2004, my grandfather quit claimed his 50% to my grandmother (not sure why this happened). When my grandfather passed away in 2005, since it was joint tenancy and not tenants in common, my grandmother technically had 100% of the property. But that wasn't what they intended, so my grandmother agreed to give 50% back to our side of the family. The lawyer messed up and put me on the quit claim deed in 2006. Now I'm trying to understand what my cost basis is. My grandmother passed away in 2023, and there was some confusion about what happened to her share - I think my uncle got it through her will or maybe a quit claim before she died. We ended up selling the house later in 2023. I'm trying to file my taxes now and I'm confused about my cost basis. Does it go back to the original purchase price from 1990? Or does my uncle's cost basis step up because of my grandmother's death in 2023? Ideally, I feel like I should have gotten a step-up in basis when my grandfather died in 2005, but since it was joint tenancy and not tenants in common, I'm not sure that's how it works legally. I also don't know what the value would have been back then. I know I probably need a CPA, but I'm wondering if anyone here can help me understand the basics of this situation.

Gavin King

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Has anyone dealt with a situation where the property was used as a rental for part of the time? I'm in a similar situation with joint tenancy and quitclaim deeds, but my property was also rented out for about 5 years, which seems to complicate things even more with depreciation recapture.

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Nathan Kim

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If it was rented, you definitely need to consider depreciation recapture. Even if you didn't actually claim depreciation during those years, the IRS considers it "allowed or allowable" meaning you'll be taxed as if you had taken it. I'd recommend using a tax pro who specializes in real estate for this situation.

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Gavin King

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Thanks for the advice. I didn't realize I'd be taxed on depreciation even if I hadn't claimed it. That's definitely something I need to look into more. I'll start looking for a tax professional who specializes in real estate.

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Carmen Sanchez

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This is exactly the kind of complex property situation that can trip people up on their taxes. From what you've described, here are the key points to understand: Since your grandfather quit claimed his share to your grandmother in 2004 and they held the property as joint tenants, your grandmother owned 100% when he passed in 2005. When she quit claimed 50% to you in 2006, you would typically receive a "carryover basis" - meaning your basis would be 50% of what your grandparents originally paid in 1990, plus any documented improvements they made. The tricky part is your uncle's share. If he received his 50% through inheritance when your grandmother died in 2023, he should get a "stepped-up basis" to the fair market value of that portion at the time of her death. However, if he received it through a quit claim deed before she died, he would also get a carryover basis. You'll want to gather all the documentation you can: the original 1990 purchase documents, all quit claim deeds with dates, death certificates, and any records of property improvements over the years. The exact timing and method of each transfer will determine the basis calculation. Given the complexity and potential tax implications, I'd strongly recommend consulting with a CPA who has experience with inherited and transferred property. They can review all your documents and ensure you're calculating everything correctly to avoid issues with the IRS.

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This is really helpful advice, Carmen! I'm curious about one thing though - if the uncle received the property through a quitclaim deed right before the grandmother died (like within a few months), would that affect whether he gets the stepped-up basis or not? I've heard there are some rules about transfers made in anticipation of death, but I'm not sure how they apply to real estate. Also, for the original poster - when you're gathering documentation, don't forget to check with the county assessor's office. They sometimes have records of when major improvements were made that affected the property's assessed value, which could help you piece together what improvements were done even if you don't have the original receipts.

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