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Aidan Percy

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As someone who went through a similar situation with inheritance from overseas, I want to emphasize how important it is to get ahead of this before your mother passes. The emotional stress of dealing with complex tax requirements while grieving is something you want to avoid. A few additional points that might help: 1. Consider establishing a relationship with a tax professional who specializes in US expat taxes NOW, not after the inheritance occurs. They can help you plan for the most efficient way to handle the inheritance and ensure all reporting requirements are met. 2. If your mother's estate planning isn't finalized, it might be worth having her consult with someone familiar with cross-border inheritance issues. Sometimes small changes in how assets are structured can make reporting simpler. 3. Keep detailed records of everything - exchange rates on the date of inheritance, property valuations, legal documents, etc. The IRS may want documentation years later. 4. Don't underestimate the complexity of valuing foreign real estate for US tax purposes. You may need professional appraisals. The "what if I don't report it" question is understandable, but the risk/reward ratio is terrible. The penalties are severe, and with modern banking reporting requirements, large asset transfers are increasingly visible to tax authorities. Your OCI status actually makes you more visible to both Indian and US authorities, not less. Better to be compliant from the start than deal with penalties and back-filing requirements later.

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Sofia Hernandez

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This is incredibly helpful advice, especially about getting ahead of it before the inheritance actually happens. I'm definitely going to look into finding a specialist now rather than waiting. One question about the property valuation - when you mention professional appraisals, does this need to be done by a US-certified appraiser, or would an Indian property valuation be acceptable to the IRS? The property is in Mumbai, so getting a US appraiser there might be challenging. Also, you mentioned that OCI status makes you more visible to authorities - can you explain what you mean by that? I thought having OCI would actually provide some protection since I'm legally allowed to be in India long-term.

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Mikayla Davison

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For property valuation, the IRS generally accepts foreign appraisals as long as they're done by qualified professionals in that country. A certified property valuer in Mumbai should be perfectly acceptable - just make sure they provide the valuation in both local currency and USD (using the exchange rate on the date of inheritance). Keep all the documentation including their credentials. Regarding OCI status making you more visible - what I meant is that having formal legal status in India creates a paper trail. You're registered with Indian authorities as someone with significant ties to India, and you likely have Indian bank accounts, property records, etc. This isn't bad protection-wise (OCI is great for living there), but it does mean you can't fly under the radar if you were thinking about not reporting things properly. Banks in India are also part of international reporting agreements now, so large transfers or account activities involving US persons (which you are, regardless of your OCI status) get reported to US authorities. Your OCI actually helps establish that you legitimately live in India, which can be beneficial for certain tax provisions, but it doesn't reduce your US reporting obligations. The key point is that having official status in multiple countries means both countries have documentation of your presence and activities, making accurate reporting even more important.

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PaulineW

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I want to add something that might be relevant to your situation - the timing of when you receive the inheritance can significantly impact your reporting requirements. If your mother passes away in 2025 but the estate takes time to settle and you don't actually receive the assets until 2026, your reporting obligations would be based on when you actually receive the inheritance, not when she passes. This is important because it affects which tax year you need to file Form 3520 and when the FBAR requirements kick in for any inherited accounts. I've seen people get confused about this timing issue and file forms for the wrong tax year. Also, since you mentioned you might inherit around $1.45 million total in assets, you should be aware that this will likely trigger the Form 8938 (FATCA) reporting requirement in addition to FBAR if the assets remain in foreign accounts. The thresholds for Form 8938 are higher than FBAR ($200,000 for unmarried taxpayers living abroad), but with assets of that size, you'd likely exceed them. One more thing - make sure you understand the difference between "receiving" an inheritance and having legal title to it. Sometimes there can be delays in the actual transfer of assets even after you're legally entitled to them, and the IRS reporting is generally based on when you actually gain control of the assets, not just when you're named as a beneficiary.

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Evelyn Kim

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This timing distinction is really important and something I hadn't considered. In my mother's case, she has most assets in fixed deposits and some mutual funds that might take time to liquidate after probate. So even though I might be named as beneficiary this year, the actual receipt could be months later. Does this mean I should be tracking both dates - when I become legally entitled versus when I actually receive control of the funds? And for FBAR purposes, if I'm named as beneficiary but don't have signature authority on the accounts yet, would that still count toward the $10,000 threshold? Also, you mentioned Form 8938 in addition to FBAR - I'm getting overwhelmed with all these different forms and thresholds. Is there a simple way to understand which forms apply when, or should I just assume I'll need to file everything given the amount involved?

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Amara Nnamani

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I just went through this exact situation with a client. The most important technical detail: QBI loss carryovers are calculated and tracked at the TAXPAYER level, not the business level. Reg ยง1.199A-3(b)(1)(iv) states: "If the net QBI with respect to qualified trades or businesses of the taxpayer...is less than zero, the taxpayer has a negative amount of QBI with respect to those trades or businesses. If a taxpayer has a negative amount of QBI, that negative amount is treated as a loss from a qualified trade or business in the succeeding taxable year." Notice it says "of the taxpayer" - not "of the business." This language supports the interpretation that QBI carryovers remain available after disposing of the business that generated them.

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CosmicCruiser

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This is super helpful, thank you! The regulation wording does seem to support what everyone's been saying. I just worried because my accountant wasn't 100% sure and it's a substantial amount that would take years to use up against my smaller businesses. Appreciate you citing the exact regulation!

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Amara Nnamani

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Glad it helps! Your accountant's uncertainty is understandable - the QBI rules are still relatively new, and the IRS hasn't issued specific guidance on every scenario. The good news is that the regulatory language focuses on taxpayer-level calculations rather than business-specific tracking. One final recommendation: document everything thoroughly. Keep records showing the calculation of your QBI loss carryover amount, the disposition of the business that generated it, and the regulatory basis for continuing to apply it against future QBI. If you're ever audited, having this documentation ready will help demonstrate your reasonable interpretation of the tax rules.

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Louisa Ramirez

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm dealing with a similar situation where I closed my consulting business last year but have substantial QBI loss carryovers. My tax preparer wasn't sure about the treatment either, but all the regulatory citations and real-world experiences shared here give me confidence that these carryovers survive business disposition. One thing I'm curious about - has anyone here actually filed returns using QBI carryovers from a disposed business and had them accepted without issue? I know the regulatory language supports it, but I'd love to hear from someone who's actually been through an audit or at least had their return processed normally with this situation. Also, for those mentioning the 2025 expiration of Section 199A, I'm wondering if it makes sense to consider converting my remaining business to a different structure to maximize QBI utilization before then. My current setup only generates modest QBI each year, so it would take forever to use up these carryovers at the current rate.

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PixelPioneer

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Has anyone here used the IRS free e-file for partnership returns? I know you can e-file Form 1065 but I'm not sure if there are any special requirements when it's a final return with that "final return" box checked. Our partnership was pretty simple with just the two of us and minimal transactions.

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Keisha Williams

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I e-filed my final 1065 last year without any issues. The e-file system handles final returns just fine - you just make sure to check that "final return" box. The one thing to watch for is if you had any asset distributions to partners when closing - that gets a bit more complicated and might require additional forms.

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Gabriel Ruiz

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Just wanted to add something that might help with your timing concerns. Since you closed in March 2024, you're actually not as pressed for time as you might think. Your 2023 partnership return (covering August-December 2023) is due by March 15, 2024, but you can file an extension until September 15, 2024 using Form 7004. For your final return covering January-March 2024, that would be due by March 15, 2025 (since it's a 2024 tax year return), so you have plenty of time to get that one right. Given that your total revenue was only $8,400 with $7,200 in expenses, you're looking at a pretty straightforward situation. The net income of $1,200 split between two partners means each partner would report $600 on their personal returns. Since the amounts are relatively small, the IRS is less likely to scrutinize the return heavily, but definitely still follow the proper procedures for the final return filings. One tip: keep detailed records of exactly when you ceased operations and any final expenses related to closing the business. These closing costs can often be deducted on your final return.

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Ethan Clark

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This is really helpful timing information! I didn't realize we could extend the 2023 return until September. That takes a lot of pressure off. One question about the closing costs you mentioned - we had some final expenses like paying our accountant to help with the dissolution paperwork and some legal fees for closing contracts. Can those be deducted on the final return even if we paid them after we officially stopped doing business? We're trying to maximize our deductions since the partnership barely broke even. Also, when you say the IRS is less likely to scrutinize smaller returns, is there a specific threshold they use? Just want to make sure we're not missing anything that could trigger extra attention.

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Toot-n-Mighty

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Has anyone here used TurboTax Business for filing a final partnership return? Their website says the 2022 version isn't available yet, but I'm wondering if there's a workaround or if I should just bite the bullet and pay for a CPA.

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Lena Kowalski

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Don't use TurboTax for this. I tried last year and it was a nightmare for our final filing. It doesn't handle some of the special codes and elections for final returns properly. Just pay the money for a CPA who specializes in business closures - it's worth it for the peace of mind.

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Mei Chen

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Just went through this exact situation last year with my business partner! You're right that you can't file the actual 2022 return until January when the IRS systems open up, but there are definitely things you can do now to get ahead of the process. First, make sure you have all your documentation organized - final profit/loss statements, asset disposition records, and any dissolution paperwork from your state. Since you've already handled the state dissolution, you're ahead of the game there. One thing that really helped us was getting our books professionally closed before year-end. Even though we dissolved in September, having everything reconciled and ready meant we could file literally on the first day the IRS started accepting returns in January. Also, double-check if you need to make any estimated tax payments for the final quarter. We almost missed this and it would have triggered penalties. Your dissolved status doesn't exempt you from quarterly obligations through your dissolution date. The waiting is definitely frustrating when you just want to close this chapter, but use this time to make sure everything is perfect so there are no delays or amendments needed later!

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Yuki Tanaka

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This is really helpful advice! I'm curious about the estimated tax payments you mentioned - how do you calculate what's owed for a dissolved partnership's final quarter? Our partnership was profitable through dissolution but I'm not sure if we need to make payments based on the full year's income or just up to the dissolution date. Did you use Form 1065ES or handle it differently for the final quarter?

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Confused on calculating penalties with Form 2210 for self-employment taxes

I finally made all my quarterly estimated tax payments for the year and decided to try figuring out Form 2210 to calculate what penalty I might owe, but I'm completely confused and think I might be doing it wrong. My self-employment income really jumped this year - I'm at about $88k AGI, all from freelancing. Last year was much lower with only about $14k AGI, and I owed around $1500 in taxes. Where I'm getting lost is that Form 2210 seems to ask for 90% of last year's tax liability. Does this mean I only needed to pay that $1500 throughout the year to avoid penalties, even though my income increased so dramatically? Will the penalty be calculated based on not paying that $1500 throughout the year, or on the roughly $19k I now owe for this year? My income wasn't consistent at all - I made way more in the second half of the year, so I tried using the annualized income installment method. But on lines 22-27 of Schedule AI part 1, it looks like I only need to pay about $375 each quarter... which seems to be 25% of last year's tax owed? But I'm not sure if that's right or if I should be basing it on this year's liability instead. When I plug everything into the other boxes, I get totally different answers. If I assume I underpaid by $375 each quarter, the penalty is around $65. But if I assume I should have paid my $88k income divided equally across 4 quarters, then I owe like $720 in penalties. That's a huge difference when I'm trying to budget! Am I missing something obvious here? Thanks for any help.

Sophia Miller

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Has anyone used the IRS Direct Pay system for making estimated payments? I'm trying to figure out if there's a way to see exactly when my payments were applied because I think some of mine might have been applied to the wrong quarters.

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Mason Davis

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If you have an IRS online account, you can see when payments were received and how they were applied. Go to irs.gov/account and check your payment history. If they applied a payment to the wrong quarter, you might be able to request that they reallocate it, though I'm not sure how flexible they are with that.

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Isabella Silva

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For your specific situation with the dramatic income jump from $14k to $88k, you're actually in a pretty favorable position regarding penalties. The "prior year safe harbor" rule means you only needed to pay $1,500 throughout the year (your prior year tax liability) in equal quarterly installments to completely avoid penalties. However, since you mentioned you "finally made all my quarterly estimated tax payments for the year," it sounds like you may have made late payments. If that's the case, you'll still benefit from the lower $1,500 threshold, but there will be some penalty for late payment. When filling out Form 2210, focus on Part II first to see if you qualify for any exceptions. If not, then Part III will calculate your penalty. For the annualized income method on Schedule AI, make sure you're entering your actual cumulative income through each quarter-end date, not dividing your annual income by 4. Given your uneven income pattern, this method will likely result in much lower required payments for Q1 and Q2. The $65 penalty you calculated using the annualized method sounds much more reasonable than the $720 penalty, especially if most of your income came in the latter half of the year.

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Natalie Wang

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This is really helpful! I think I was getting confused because I was mixing up the two different safe harbor rules. So just to confirm - since my prior year tax was $1,500, that's all I needed to pay throughout this year to avoid penalties, even though I now owe around $19k? And you're right about the late payments - I did make them all late, mostly in the last quarter when I realized how much I was going to owe. So I'll definitely have some penalty, but it should be calculated based on that $1,500 threshold rather than my current year liability. For the annualized method, I think I was making the mistake you mentioned about dividing annual income by 4. My actual income through March 31 was only about $8k, and through June 30 was maybe $18k. Most of the remaining $62k came in Q3 and Q4. That would definitely make my required Q1 and Q2 payments much lower than I was calculating. Thanks for breaking this down so clearly - I feel like I can actually tackle this form now!

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