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Connor Murphy

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I went through this exact scenario two years ago and can confirm everything others are saying about the sequential processing. What I learned the hard way is that you should also make sure you have all your documentation ready for the amendment before your original return finishes processing. The IRS gave me a really tight window to submit supporting documents after they started reviewing my 1040-X, and I almost missed the deadline because I wasn't prepared. Also, if you're amending because you missed income (like a 1099), double-check that the payer actually submitted that form to the IRS - sometimes the processing delays give you time to discover the payer never filed it in the first place, which changes your amendment strategy completely.

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Zara Mirza

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That's a really smart point about having documentation ready! I'm curious - what kind of tight window did the IRS give you for submitting supporting documents? Was it like 30 days or shorter? And when you mention checking if the payer actually submitted the 1099 to the IRS, is there a way to verify that before filing the amendment? I'm in a similar situation where I think I might be missing a 1099-MISC and want to make sure I handle this correctly.

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@dbfd85a23cb3 That's excellent advice about having documentation ready! In my experience, the IRS typically gives you 30-45 days to submit supporting documents once they start processing your 1040-X, but it can vary. For checking if a payer submitted a 1099 to the IRS, you can request a wage and income transcript online through your IRS account or by calling. This transcript shows all the tax documents (W-2s, 1099s, etc.) that third parties reported to the IRS under your SSN. It's super helpful to pull this transcript before filing your amendment so you know exactly what income the IRS already has on file for you. If the 1099-MISC isn't showing up on your transcript, you might not need to amend at all - or you might need to contact the payer first to make sure they file it properly.

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This is really great information everyone! I'm actually in a very similar boat - filed my return two weeks ago and just discovered I forgot to include some side income from a small consulting job. Reading through all these experiences, it sounds like the consensus is crystal clear: wait for the original return to finish processing completely before filing the 1040-X. The sequential processing makes total sense from a systems perspective, even though it's frustrating timing-wise. I'm definitely going to pull my wage and income transcript like Mateo suggested to see exactly what's already reported to the IRS before I decide how to proceed with the amendment. Thanks for sharing all your real-world experiences - this is way more helpful than the generic advice you usually find online!

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FYI - I work at a credit card company (not saying which one). We send out 1099-MISC forms for referral bonuses because we're required to by the IRS for any payment over $600. Some companies might ignore this rule for smaller amounts, but technically ALL referral bonuses are taxable income regardless of amount. Also, just wanna point out that some companies send 1099-NECs instead of 1099-MISC for referrals, which can be confusing. MISC is generally the correct form for one-time bonuses like this, while NEC is for when they're treating you more like a contractor.

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Does the $600 threshold apply per payment or total for the year? Like if someone got multiple $300 referrals totaling over $600, would they get a 1099?

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NebulaNinja

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Just wanted to share my experience since I was in a similar boat last year! I got a $950 referral bonus from my credit card company and was totally caught off guard by the 1099-MISC. Here's what I learned: Yes, you'll need to pay taxes on the full $1,150, but it's not as bad as it might seem at first. Like others mentioned, it goes on Schedule 1 as "Other Income" and you'll pay your regular income tax rate (not self-employment tax, which is a relief!). One thing that helped me was setting aside about 25-30% of the bonus amount right away for taxes - that way I wasn't scrambling come tax time. Your actual percentage will depend on your tax bracket, but it's better to overestimate and get a refund than be caught short. Also, make sure to keep that 1099-MISC form safe! You'll need it when filing, and the IRS already has a copy, so there's no hiding from it. The silver lining is that these kinds of bonuses are usually one-time things, so it won't affect your taxes every year. Good luck with your filing!

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Harold Oh

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That's really smart advice about setting aside 25-30% right away! I wish I had thought of that when I got my bonus. I just spent it and now I'm scrambling to figure out how much I'll owe. Quick question - did you have to make estimated tax payments on it, or were you able to just handle it when you filed your annual return? I'm wondering if getting a big bonus like this mid-year means I should be paying quarterly taxes on it.

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I've been receiving oil royalties for years and I've always reported them on Schedule E as rental income. My accountant says this is the standard practice for passive royalty owners. But I've never heard about depreciating by 20%... we've always used the depletion allowance instead which is typically 15% for oil and gas.

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I think the original poster might be confusing depreciation with depletion. From what I understand, depletion is the correct method for oil and gas resources since they're being "used up" over time.

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Mary Bates

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You're absolutely right about the confusion between depreciation and depletion! As a passive royalty owner, you should definitely be using depletion allowance, not depreciation. The 15% percentage depletion you mentioned is correct for oil and gas - it's much more beneficial than the 20% depreciation method since depletion isn't limited to your original investment basis. One thing to add about QBI and oil royalties: while most passive royalty income doesn't qualify for QBI, there are some rare exceptions. If you can demonstrate that you're materially participating in the oil and gas activity (which is very difficult to prove as a royalty owner), or if your royalties are tied to a working interest rather than just mineral rights, you might qualify. But for typical passive royalty situations like yours, the income is generally considered portfolio income rather than qualified business income. Also, make sure you're keeping detailed records of your depletion calculations year over year - the IRS scrutinizes oil and gas deductions pretty carefully, especially if you're claiming percentage depletion consistently.

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This is really helpful information! I'm new to oil and gas taxation and have been struggling with understanding the difference between depletion and depreciation. Could you clarify something for me - when you mention "working interest" versus "mineral rights," what exactly is the difference? I inherited some oil properties from my grandfather and I'm not sure which category I fall into. The checks I receive are labeled as "royalty payments" but I want to make sure I'm not missing out on any potential QBI benefits if I actually have a working interest.

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Max Knight

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Great question! The distinction between working interest and mineral rights is crucial for tax purposes. If you have **mineral rights**, you own the right to receive royalty payments from oil/gas extracted from your property, but you don't participate in the actual operations or bear any of the costs. You just receive a percentage of production revenue - this is what most people inherit and sounds like your situation since you're getting "royalty payments." A **working interest** means you're actually involved in the operation and bear a share of the drilling, extraction, and operating costs. Working interest owners can deduct these expenses and their income is more likely to qualify for QBI deduction since it's considered active business income rather than passive investment income. Since you inherited the properties and receive royalty payments without any operating responsibilities or costs, you almost certainly have mineral rights, not working interest. Your lease agreements should specify this - look for terms like "royalty interest" or "mineral interest" versus "working interest." The good news is that even with mineral rights, you can still benefit from the 15% depletion allowance, which is often quite valuable for reducing your tax burden!

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Something no one has mentioned yet - have you considered using a Self-Directed IRA LLC (sometimes called a checkbook IRA) instead of ROBS? It might be better suited for real estate investments and doesn't require setting up a C-corp or dealing with the active business requirement. The downside is you can't personally benefit from the properties or be involved in day-to-day management, but for pure investment purposes it might be a cleaner structure. Just make sure you understand prohibited transaction rules because they're strictly enforced.

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I went down this road and the self-directed IRA route has its own complications though. The UBIT (Unrelated Business Income Tax) can kick in if there's debt-financed income from the properties, which often makes leveraged real estate less attractive inside an IRA. Plus, you lose out on depreciation deductions that would otherwise flow through on your personal return.

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Ravi Sharma

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I've been following this discussion closely as I'm considering a similar structure. One thing I haven't seen mentioned is the potential impact of the Corporate Transparency Act (CTA) on ROBS structures. Since your C-corp would likely be considered a "reporting company" under the new beneficial ownership reporting requirements, you'll need to file FinCEN reports disclosing ownership information. This adds another layer of compliance but shouldn't affect the tax treatment of your ROBS. Also, regarding the LLC structure you mentioned - make sure you understand how the K-1 income will be treated at the C-corp level. Since C-corps don't get pass-through treatment, the rental income will be subject to corporate tax rates, and if you later want to access those funds personally, you'll face potential double taxation through dividends. Have you considered whether the rental income strategy makes sense given that corporate tax treatment, or would you be better off with a structure that allows pass-through taxation?

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Haley Stokes

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That's a really important point about the Corporate Transparency Act that I hadn't considered. As someone new to this whole ROBS concept, I'm starting to realize there are layers of compliance I never even knew existed. The double taxation issue you mentioned is particularly concerning. If I'm understanding correctly, the rental income from the LLC would be taxed at the corporate level first, and then again if I try to distribute any of those profits to myself personally later? That seems like it could significantly eat into the benefits of using the ROBS structure in the first place. Would it make more sense to structure the C-corp's business activities in a way that generates income that can be reinvested back into the business rather than distributed? Or are there other strategies to minimize this double taxation problem?

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Don't forget that even though you had minimal activity, you still need to file Schedule K-1 for yourself as the sole shareholder. The $125 income (minus the $27 expense) will flow through to your personal return. Also check if your state requires a separate S-Corp filing - many do, even if you had minimal or no activity. Some states have minimum franchise taxes for S-Corps regardless of activity level, which can be a nasty surprise if you're not expecting it.

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Dylan Fisher

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This! I got hit with an $800 minimum franchise tax in California for my S-Corp even though I had basically no activity that first year. Totally wasn't expecting it and it really hurt considering I had barely any revenue. Definitely check your state requirements.

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Rita Jacobs

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Great questions! I went through this exact same situation two years ago when I first elected S-Corp status for my single-member LLC. The minimal activity part is actually pretty common in the first year. A couple additional things to keep in mind beyond what others have mentioned: 1) Make sure you're comfortable with the ongoing compliance requirements. Even with minimal activity, you'll need to file Form 1120S every year by March 15th (with extensions available). There's also reasonable compensation requirements once you start having significant income. 2) For your $125 bank bonus, double-check if the bank issued you a 1099-MISC or 1099-INT. If they did, make sure the income amount on your return matches exactly what they reported to the IRS to avoid any automated matching notices. 3) Since you mentioned wanting to avoid giving out your SSN to clients - just remember that your S-Corp election doesn't change your LLC's legal structure. You're still an LLC for legal purposes, just taxed as an S-Corp. Some clients might still ask for your SSN if they're not familiar with this distinction. The learning curve is steep the first year, but it gets much easier once you understand the process. Good luck with your filing!

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This is really helpful perspective! I'm actually considering making the S-Corp election for my LLC this year for similar reasons - tired of handing out my SSN to every client. Your point about reasonable compensation requirements is something I hadn't fully considered. At what income level does that typically become a concern? I'm hoping to have more substantial revenue next year and want to make sure I understand the obligations before I make the election.

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