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Diego Vargas

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Just a heads up that the person BUYING the property in this scenario also needs to consider tax implications. When my mom sold me her house below market value, I didn't have to pay gift tax (that was on her), but when I eventually sold the property years later, I had to use HER original basis for calculating capital gains, not the discounted price I paid. This is called "basis carryover" for related party transactions and it really surprised me at tax time.

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Wait really? So if the original poster buys a property for 200k, sells to family for 300k when it's worth 600k, and then the family member later sells for 700k, the family member's capital gain isn't 400k (700k-300k) but 500k (700k-200k)? That seems unfair somehow.

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That's not quite right. The basis carryover rules apply for GIFTED property, not for property that's purchased at a discount. If you actually buy the property (even at a discount), your basis is what you paid plus the gift portion's carryover basis. It gets complicated, but it's not as bad as using the original owner's complete basis.

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NebulaKnight

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One important thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the timing aspect of getting your appraisal. The IRS expects the fair market value to be determined as close to the transaction date as possible. If you're using an appraisal that's several months old, they might question its validity, especially in a volatile real estate market. Also, make sure your appraiser knows this is for a family transaction that will likely involve gift tax reporting. Some appraisers will note this in their report and provide additional documentation about their methodology, which can be helpful if the IRS ever questions the valuation. I learned this the hard way when my first appraisal didn't have enough detail and I had to get a second one specifically for tax purposes. The key is having rock-solid documentation for every aspect of this transaction - the appraisal, the reasons for the below-market sale, and proper filing of all required forms. It's definitely worth consulting with a tax professional who has experience with family property transfers before you proceed.

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Aaliyah Reed

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This is really good advice about the appraisal timing! I'm just starting to research this whole process and hadn't realized how specific the IRS requirements are. When you say the appraiser should know it's for a family transaction, do you literally tell them "this is for gift tax purposes" or is there more specific language they need to hear? Also, roughly how much should I expect to pay for an appraisal that meets IRS standards versus a regular real estate appraisal?

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FYI - if you're super anxious about this stuff (I was too!), you can also set up an appointment with your local Volunteer Income Tax Assistance (VITA) program. They offer FREE tax help to people who make under $60,000, and they can explain the basics to you. Google "VITA tax help near me" to find locations.

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VITA was awesome when I first started working! The volunteers are usually retired accountants or tax professionals who really know their stuff. Just make sure to book early because appointments fill up fast in March and April.

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This sounds perfect for me! I'll definitely look into VITA - having someone walk me through it the first time would be so helpful. Thanks for letting me know about this option!

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Ravi Gupta

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Hey there! I totally get the anxiety - I remember my first year working and having that same 3 AM panic about taxes. The good news is that you're already doing everything right! Since you mentioned you're getting taxes taken out of your paycheck, you're actually paying your taxes throughout the year automatically. The April 15th deadline is just for filing your tax return, which is basically a summary of what you earned and what you already paid. One thing that helped me feel more confident was creating a simple tax calendar reminder on my phone. I set it to remind me in late January to watch for my W-2 form from my employer, and then another reminder in early March to start thinking about filing. Having those reminders made it feel way less overwhelming and more manageable. You're definitely not going to jail or get in trouble - the IRS is actually pretty understanding with people who are making an honest effort to comply. The fact that you're asking these questions shows you're being responsible about it!

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Code 971 Appeared After IRS Said Refund Released - Transcript Shows Notice Issued 12/11/2024 - Is My Amended Return Finally Processing?

Just got off the phone with IRS and they said my refund was released and to wait 4-6 weeks. When I checked WMR it hasn't updated yet, but my transcript shows a new 971 code appeared. Anyone know if this is actually progress? I logged into the IRS website (sa.www4.irs.gov) and can now see my full transcript. My account currently shows: ACCOUNT BALANCE: +$11,569.00 FILING STATUS: Married filing jointly INCOME: $26,842.00 TAXABLE INCOME: $6,042.00 TAX FOR AUTHOR: $6.00 RETURN DUE DATE: Apr. 15, 2024 RETURN RECEIVED DATE: Apr. 14, 2024 PROCESSING DATE: Apr. 14, 2024 TRANSACTIONS: CODE EXPLANATION OF TRANSACTION CYCLE DATE AMOUNT 150 Tax return filed 20231105 04-16-2024 $0.00 806 W-2 or 1099 withholding 04-16-2024 -$5,791.00 846 Credit to your account 04-16-2024 -$5,139.00 768 Earned income credit 04-16-2024 -$4,773.00 570 Additional account action pending 04-15-2024 $0.00 971 Notice issued - return 04-16-2024 $0.00 forwarded for processing 971 Notice issued 04-27-2024 $0.00 570 Return being held 04-26-2024 $0.00 971 Amended tax return received - claim 07-28-2024 $0.00 forwarded for processing 976 Amended filed 07-28-2024 $0.00 767 Reduced or removed credit to 08-24-2024 $798.00 account 768 Earned income credit 08-14-2024 +$4,759.00 806 Reduced or removed W-2 or 1099 08-14-2024 $5,774.00 withholding 290 Additional tax assessed 20241001 12-31-2024 $0.00 971 Notice issued 12-11-2024 $0.00 I'm confused because the IRS told me on the phone today that my refund was released but I still see this 971 code that just appeared with a 12/11/2024 date. Does this mean my refund is actually on the way? I filed an amended return back in July which seems to have been processed in August (see all those codes from 08/14/2024 and 08/24/2024), but I'm still waiting on my money. Is the new 971 code good news or another delay?

Looking at your transcript, that 971 code from 12/11/2024 is likely related to your amended return processing. Since you filed the amendment in July and it shows as processed in August (based on those codes), this new 971 could be the IRS issuing a final notice about your refund adjustment. The fact that they told you it was "released" is promising - usually when they say that, the money follows within 2-3 weeks. Keep checking WMR and your bank account. The 971 isn't necessarily a delay, just documentation that they're sending you something in the mail explaining the final numbers.

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Carmen Diaz

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That makes sense! I've been checking my mailbox religiously since seeing that 971 code pop up. Really hoping it's just confirming the refund release like you said. The waiting game is brutal but at least there's some movement on my transcript finally šŸ¤ž

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Code 971 with a December date after they told you the refund was released is actually a good sign! This usually means they're sending you a notice explaining the final refund amount or confirming the release. Since your amended return shows as processed back in August (those 767, 768, 806 codes), this 971 is likely just the final paperwork catching up. I'd expect to see your refund hit your account within the next 1-3 weeks based on that phone call. Keep checking WMR daily and watch your mail for that notice - it should explain everything!

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Yuki Tanaka

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8 Has anyone used the IRS's "Where's My Refund" tool with large donation deductions? I'm wondering if returns with big charitable contributions take longer to process or if they get refunds at the normal speed.

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Yuki Tanaka

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23 In my experience (donated about 40% of income last year), my refund was delayed by about 3 weeks compared to previous years. Not sure if it was related to the donation or just general IRS backlog though.

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15 I work as a tax preparer and see large charitable deductions regularly. A few additional points that might help: The IRS has specific thresholds that can trigger computer screening - donations over certain percentages of AGI are more likely to get a second look, but this doesn't mean you'll definitely be audited. Having complete documentation is your best protection. One thing I always tell clients: make sure you're not exceeding the annual deduction limits. For 2023, cash donations to public charities are generally limited to 60% of your AGI, though there were temporary 100% limits during COVID that have since expired. Any excess can be carried forward for up to 5 years. Also, if any of your donations were appreciated property (stocks, real estate, etc.), there are additional documentation requirements and different percentage limits (usually 30% of AGI for appreciated capital gain property). Keep digital copies of everything and store them in multiple places. In an audit, missing documentation is often more problematic than the size of the deduction itself.

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Has anyone noticed if this change to Schedule K-1 codes also affects how you report this info on your personal 1040? I'm worried that if I'm creating a Statement A for my S-corp K-1, I might also need to change how I report this on my individual return.

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Your personal 1040 reporting hasn't changed significantly. Form 8995 or 8995-A (depending on your income level) still requires the same information. The difference is just in how that information is provided to you on the K-1. The Statement A actually makes it easier to transfer the correct numbers to your 8995/8995-A because everything is clearly broken out rather than combined.

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Evelyn Kim

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This is exactly the kind of confusion I was dealing with a few months ago! The transition from separate Box 17 codes to the Statement A approach definitely caught a lot of S-corp owners off guard. Just to add some clarity for anyone still struggling with this - the key thing to remember is that the underlying Section 199A information requirements haven't changed, just how they're presented on the K-1. You still need to track the same components (qualified business income, W-2 wages, UBIA of qualified property, etc.), but now they all go on an attached statement rather than being split across different box codes. One tip that helped me: if you're preparing your own K-1, make sure your Statement A is clearly labeled and includes all the required elements. The IRS hasn't published an official form for Statement A, so there's some flexibility in format, but consistency and clarity are key. Each component should be clearly identified and the amounts should tie back to your business records. Also worth noting - this change actually makes multi-shareholder S-corps easier to handle since you can provide detailed breakdowns for each shareholder's allocation without cramming everything into limited box space.

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Thanks for the detailed explanation! This is really helpful. I'm new to S-corp taxation and was completely lost with these changes. Just to make sure I understand correctly - when you say the Statement A format has "flexibility," does that mean I can use a simple table format in Excel and attach it as a PDF? Or does it need to be formatted in a specific way that looks more like an official IRS form? Also, you mentioned multi-shareholder S-corps - I'm planning to bring in a partner next year, so it's good to know this new approach will actually make things easier when we have multiple shareholders. Do you happen to know if there are any good examples of properly formatted Statement A documents available online that I could use as a template?

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