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I made a huge mistake last year by putting my estimated tax payments on the wrong line of my 1040. The IRS sent me a letter saying I owed a bunch of money plus penalties, and it took months to get sorted out. Double check where you're entering everything!

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Which line did you put them on by mistake? I want to make sure I don't make the same error.

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Ava Williams

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This is exactly why I always keep detailed records of all my tax payments throughout the year! For your situation with two types of withholding, I'd recommend creating a simple spreadsheet to track everything before you start filing. List your W-2 withholding amount from box 2, then separately list each quarterly estimated payment you made with the dates and amounts. When you're ready to file, the W-2 withholding goes on line 25a of Form 1040, and your estimated payments total goes on line 26. In TurboTax, these will be in different sections - the W-2 info gets entered when you input your W-2 form, and the estimated payments have their own dedicated section usually under "Federal Taxes" or "Payments." The key thing is to make sure you have documentation for all your estimated payments - either bank records, confirmation numbers, or receipts. This way if the IRS ever questions anything, you have proof of what you paid and when.

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Chloe Harris

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This is really helpful advice! I'm new to having multiple income sources and the spreadsheet idea sounds like a lifesaver. Quick question - when you say "documentation for estimated payments," do you mean I need to keep physical receipts, or are the confirmation numbers from online payments enough? I made all my quarterly payments through the IRS website but I'm worried I might have lost some of the confirmation emails.

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Pro tip from someone who's been thru this 2x - after verifying, check your transcript not WMR. WMR is often delayed but transcripts update first. Look for TC 570 (hold) followed by TC 571 (hold released) and finally TC 846 (refund issued). Once you see 846, you'll have $$ in 3-5 days. Hang in there - the system works, it's just slow AF.

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Ava Garcia

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I just went through this exact situation two weeks ago! Got my 5071C letter in early April and was freaking out about my car payment deadline. Here's what actually happened: • Verified online through ID.me on April 8th (took about 20 minutes) • Transcript updated with TC 971 on April 15th (showing verification complete) • WMR still showed "processing" until April 20th • Got TC 846 refund issued code on April 22nd • Money hit my account on April 25th So 17 days total from verification to deposit. Way faster than the 9 weeks they quote! The key is checking your transcript like others mentioned - it's your real-time window into what's happening. Don't stress too much about the tuition deadline, most schools have payment plan options if you need to buy a few extra weeks.

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This is exactly the kind of real timeline I was hoping to see! Your 17-day experience gives me so much hope. I verified through ID.me last week and have been obsessively checking both WMR and my transcript. Just saw the TC 971 code appear yesterday, so fingers crossed I'm on a similar timeline to yours. Did your transcript show any other codes between the 971 and the 846, or was it pretty straightforward after verification was complete?

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@Ava Garcia Your timeline is incredibly reassuring! I m'in almost the exact same boat - verified through ID.me on April 10th and just saw my TC 971 code appear on my transcript yesterday. The 17-day turnaround you experienced would be a lifesaver for my tuition deadline. Quick question - did you notice any specific day of the week pattern for when your codes updated? I ve'heard some people say transcripts typically update on Wednesdays/Fridays but wasn t'sure if that s'actually true.

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Chris King

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The IRS verification system is like that friend who texts you asking where you are while you're sitting right next to them. šŸ˜‚ But seriously, the consensus among tax pros is that if you've verified by phone with a letter, you're generally good to go. The online notification is likely just system lag. Most people in your situation report getting their refunds processed normally despite the lingering notification. If you're really concerned, getting your transcript is the best way to confirm your actual status.

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Lucas Adams

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I went through this exact scenario in February! Phone verified using the CP01A letter on Feb 15th, then kept getting the online verification prompt for another two weeks. I was panicking because my refund was over $8,000 and I thought something went wrong. Turns out it was just their systems being slow to sync up. My transcript showed the 971 code about 5 days after my phone call, and my refund hit my account on March 2nd without me doing the online verification. The key thing is checking your transcript - if you see processing codes updating, you're likely fine even with the persistent online notification. The IRS phone rep I spoke to said this dual notification issue affects about 30% of people who verify by phone during peak season.

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Jamal Carter

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Honestly, don't waste money on paper guides that'll be outdated. I use the IRS publications directly - they're FREE and the actual source of truth. Publication 17 covers most individual tax situations, and there are specific publications for business, investments, etc.

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IRS publications are accurate but they're written like technical manuals. The whole reason people buy tax guides is because they interpret and explain the IRS language in a more usable way, plus they include examples, planning tips, and often have better organization.

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Ben Cooper

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Great question! I'm also relatively new to tax prep work. From what I've researched, the CCH Master Tax Guide is definitely legitimate - Wolters Kluwer is a well-established publisher in the tax and legal space. One thing I'd add to the recommendations already mentioned: consider getting the digital version if available. Many of these guides now come with online access that includes search functionality, which can be a huge time-saver when you're looking for specific topics mid-preparation. Also, don't forget about continuing education requirements if you plan to do this professionally. The IRS requires Annual Filing Season Program participants to complete continuing education, so factor that into your planning as well. Good luck with your tax prep work this season!

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Received IRS Notice CP162A - Need help with penalty options!

I just got an IRS Notice CP162A for "Failure to File Penalty" and I'm really freaking out about what to do next. Tax Period: 9/30/22 Amount Due: $2250.00 Notice Date: 5/12/23 So here's what happened - I filed my Partnership 1065 form on February 22, 2022, which was well before the deadline. I sent it through regular mail (USPS) but didn't get tracking on it (big mistake, I know). Just yesterday my aunt forwarded me this notice from my old address. I'm pretty sure the IRS never received my filing and it got lost somewhere in the mail system, but I have no official proof of mailing. I still have the original tax return saved on my laptop with a "last modified" date of 2/23/22. Some details that might be relevant: - I have the saved tax return with that February date - My credit card statement shows a USPS charge from the next day - I used H&R Block software to prepare the return - I marked this as a Final Return when I e-filed for 2022 tax year (did that in March 2023) - This is the first penalty I've ever received for this LLC - I've moved from the address where they sent the notice My financial situation is really tight right now. There's absolutely no way I can pay a $2250 penalty, especially since the return showed zero activity (the LLC has been inactive since 2020 and is now closed). The business has zero income, and I'm personally only making about $1800 a month while my expenses are around $2900. My boyfriend helps with the rest of our bills. I'm honestly terrified about what to do. If I have to pay this, I could end up without housing. Any advice would be so appreciated.

Reading through your situation, I can definitely relate to the panic you must be feeling right now. I went through something very similar with my S-Corp a couple years ago - got a CP162A notice for over $3,000 and thought my world was ending. The good news is that you actually have a really strong case here. The combination of your clean compliance history, the evidence you have (that February-dated return and USPS charge), and your genuine financial hardship gives you multiple paths to get this resolved. Here's what I'd recommend doing immediately: **Call the IRS first thing tomorrow morning** using the number on your notice. Ask specifically for "first-time penalty abatement" - don't get sidetracked explaining the whole lost mail situation initially. Just say "I'm requesting first-time penalty abatement for this failure to file penalty." Have your EIN and notice number ready. **If they approve it on the call** (which is very likely given your clean history), you're done! Get a confirmation number and ask when you'll receive written confirmation. **If for some reason FTA doesn't work**, then pivot to reasonable cause due to the lost mail. Your evidence is actually pretty solid - that saved return with the February timestamp plus the USPS charge the next day tells a clear story. **Don't forget to mention your financial hardship** - with income of $1,800 vs expenses of $2,900, you likely qualify for Currently Not Collectible status, which would stop all collection activity regardless. The most important thing is to not let this overwhelm you. The IRS has processes for exactly these situations, and you have legitimate grounds for relief. You're not going to lose your housing over this - they have protections in place for people in financial hardship. Keep us updated on how the call goes! You've got this! šŸ’Ŗ

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This step-by-step approach is exactly what I needed to hear! Breaking it down into these clear action items makes the whole process feel so much more manageable. I really appreciate you emphasizing to start with just asking for first-time penalty abatement without getting into all the details right away - I was planning to launch into the whole lost mail story immediately, but your approach sounds much more strategic. The reassurance about the financial hardship protections is huge for me. I've been losing sleep worrying about worst-case scenarios, but knowing that Currently Not Collectible status exists and that I likely qualify based on my income/expense situation gives me so much peace of mind. Your point about having legitimate grounds for relief really resonates with me too. Sometimes when you're in the middle of a stressful situation like this, it's easy to feel like you're asking for something you don't deserve, but you're right - I did file on time, I do have evidence, and these programs exist for exactly these circumstances. I'm definitely going to follow your recommended sequence tomorrow morning and will absolutely update everyone here on how it goes. Thank you so much for the encouragement and the muscle emoji - it's amazing how much a little support from strangers on the internet can help when you're feeling overwhelmed! šŸ’Ŗ

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I just wanted to add one more practical tip that helped me when I was in a similar situation - when you call the IRS tomorrow, have a pen and paper ready to write down EVERYTHING. Get the representative's name, their ID number, the date and time of your call, and any confirmation numbers they give you. Also, if they approve your first-time penalty abatement on the call, ask them to email you a confirmation if possible, or at minimum ask when you can expect to receive written confirmation in the mail. Sometimes there can be delays in the written confirmation, so having detailed notes from your call becomes really important. One thing that really helped me stay calm during my call was remembering that the IRS representatives deal with penalty abatement requests all day long - this is routine for them, even though it feels huge and scary to you. They have the tools and authority to resolve your situation, and given your clean compliance history, you're exactly the type of case they're designed to help. Your evidence is actually stronger than you think - that saved return with the February timestamp combined with the USPS charge creates a clear timeline that supports your story. Even if the mail got lost, you clearly made a good faith effort to file on time. You're going to get through this! Update us after your call - I think you'll be pleasantly surprised by how smoothly it goes. šŸ™‚

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Sergio Neal

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This is such practical advice! I've been reading through everyone's responses and feeling so much more prepared, but you're absolutely right about having pen and paper ready. I can imagine being so nervous during the call that I might forget important details like confirmation numbers or the rep's ID. The point about asking for email confirmation is really smart too - I wouldn't have thought to ask for that, but having something immediate rather than waiting for mail would definitely give me peace of mind while I wait for the official written notice. Your reminder that this is routine for IRS representatives is really comforting. It's easy to forget that what feels like a crisis to me is probably just another Tuesday for them. That perspective shift helps me feel less like I'm asking for a huge favor and more like I'm just following a normal process. Thank you for pointing out that my evidence is stronger than I think - sometimes when you're stressed about something, you focus on what you don't have (like tracking info) instead of what you do have (the timestamped return and USPS charge). You're right that those create a clear timeline of good faith effort to comply. I'll definitely take detailed notes during the call tomorrow and will come back to update everyone. This community has been absolutely incredible - I went from feeling completely panicked to feeling confident and prepared. Thank you so much! 😊

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