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Just wanted to add that my business partner and I chose an LLC for our home renovation company, and we elected S-corp taxation after the first year when we started making decent profit. The key advantage was paying ourselves reasonable salaries and taking the rest as distributions, which saved us thousands in self-employment taxes. One mistake we made was not having a really solid operating agreement at the start. Def spend the money to have a lawyer draft one that covers what happens if one partner wants out, gets disabled, etc. We had a rough patch where my partner wanted to take on projects I thought were too risky, and without clear decision-making protocols in our agreement, it created some real tension.
How much did it cost you to make the S-corp election after starting as an LLC? Did you have to file any additional paperwork with the state or just with the IRS?
The S-corp election itself was free - you just file Form 2553 with the IRS. We didn't have to file anything additional with the state since we were already registered as an LLC. The costs came from hiring an accountant to help us understand the payroll requirements (about $400 for the consultation) and then we pay about $150 extra per month for payroll processing now that we have to run actual payroll for ourselves. But the tax savings made it worthwhile once we were consistently profitable. First year we just operated as a partnership-taxed LLC to keep things simple while getting established. Definitely talk to a tax pro who knows construction businesses before making the S-corp election because timing matters.
Great discussion here! As someone who's been through the LLC vs LLP decision for my electrical contracting business, I'd echo what others have said about LLC being the better choice for contractors. One thing I haven't seen mentioned is worker classification issues. With construction, you'll likely work with both employees and subcontractors, and the IRS scrutinizes this heavily. LLCs give you more flexibility in how you structure these relationships compared to LLPs. Also, if you're planning to eventually bring on additional partners or investors down the road, LLCs make that much easier. We started as just two partners but brought in a third after year two when we landed some bigger commercial contracts. The LLC structure made adding him straightforward without having to restructure the entire business. For what it's worth, our accountant recommended starting simple with basic LLC partnership taxation for the first year or two, then evaluating S-corp election once you're consistently profitable and can justify the payroll overhead. That approach worked well for us - kept initial compliance costs low while we were figuring out the business.
This is really helpful insight about worker classification! I hadn't thought about how the business structure might affect our ability to work with subcontractors. We're definitely planning to use subs for specialized work like plumbing and electrical. Can you elaborate on what specific flexibility the LLC provides for contractor relationships that an LLP wouldn't? Also curious about your experience adding the third partner - were there any tax implications or complications we should be aware of if we decide to expand later?
This entire thread has been a lifesaver! I'm in week 11 with my W7 return and was starting to panic that something had gone wrong. Reading everyone's detailed experiences really shows that these extended timelines are unfortunately normal for ITIN cases. A few things I've learned from my own experience that might help others: 1. The IRS considers paper returns with W7 applications completely separate from regular returns - they go to specialized processing centers and follow different workflows entirely. 2. Even after you receive the ITIN, your return still needs to go through what they call "re-association" where they manually link the new ITIN back to your original return. This alone can take 2-4 weeks. 3. The "Where's My Refund" tool is essentially useless for W7 returns until they're completely processed, so don't panic if nothing shows up for months. For anyone still waiting, I'd highly recommend calling the ITIN-specific line at 1-800-908-9982 rather than the general IRS number. The agents there actually understand the W7 process and can give you much better information about where your return stands. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - it really helps to know we're not alone in this incredibly slow process!
This summary is incredibly helpful! I just wanted to add one more thing I discovered when I called that ITIN line last week - the agent told me that if you need to contact them again about your W7 return, make sure to mention that it's a "Form W-7 tax return inquiry" right at the beginning of the call. This apparently routes you to agents who specialize in these cases rather than general customer service reps who might not understand the unique processing steps. She also mentioned that they're seeing longer delays this year specifically because of increased ITIN applications and staffing challenges at the specialized processing centers. So even the "normal" 16-20 week timeline might be extended for returns filed in 2024. It's frustrating, but at least knowing the real timeline helps manage expectations. Thanks @Emma Thompson for putting together such a clear breakdown of the process - this should honestly be pinned information for anyone dealing with W7 returns!
I'm going through this exact same situation right now and this thread has been incredibly reassuring! I filed my return with a W7 for my spouse back in January, received the ITIN in early March, but I'm now at 15 weeks with no updates on the actual return processing. What's really helped me is understanding that this isn't just a "slow processing" issue - it's actually multiple separate processes that have to happen in sequence. The W7 gets handled first, then there's this manual re-association step that nobody tells you about, then it goes into yet another queue for final processing. I called the ITIN-specific line (1-800-908-9982) that everyone mentioned and the agent confirmed my return is in the "post-ITIN manual review" stage. She explained that returns with newly issued ITINs require additional verification steps to make sure all the information matches up correctly in their system. The most helpful thing she told me was to expect a total timeline of 18-22 weeks from original filing for first-time ITIN cases. That puts me at another 3-7 weeks of waiting, which is frustrating but at least I have realistic expectations now. For anyone just starting this process - definitely don't e-file a duplicate return thinking yours got lost. The paper W7 returns follow a completely different workflow and the normal IRS tools don't track them properly until they're fully completed.
Thank you so much for sharing the detailed timeline breakdown! I'm new to this community but dealing with the exact same situation - filed with a W7 for my mother-in-law in February, got her ITIN about 6 weeks ago, but still waiting on the return itself. Your explanation about the "post-ITIN manual review" stage really helps me understand why this is taking so much longer than I expected. I had no idea there were so many separate steps involved after the ITIN is issued. The 18-22 week timeline you mentioned from that IRS agent is actually really helpful for planning purposes, even though it's painfully long. I'm definitely going to call that ITIN-specific number you mentioned. Did you have to wait long to get through, and do they ask for any special information beyond the usual SSN and filing details? I want to make sure I'm prepared before I call. It's honestly such a relief to find this thread and realize that my return isn't lost somewhere in the system - it's just stuck in this incredibly slow but apparently normal process. Thanks to everyone for sharing their experiences!
This is such a helpful thread! I'm dealing with a similar situation but with an added complication - the deceased relative lived in one state, worked in another state, and I live in a third state. The plan administrator is withholding taxes for the state where the company is headquartered (a fourth state!). From what I'm reading here, it sounds like I'll need to file a nonresident return in the withholding state and then claim credits on my home state return. But I'm wondering if I also need to consider the deceased's state of residence or the state where they worked? Also, has anyone dealt with the timing issue? They're distributing this in late 2025, so I'm worried about having enough time to sort out all the state tax filings before the April deadline. Should I be making estimated payments to my home state even though they're already withholding for another state?
Welcome to the multi-state inheritance tax maze! I went through something similar last year with my grandmother's plan. The good news is that for inheritance purposes, you generally only need to worry about the withholding state and your home state - the deceased's residence and work location typically don't create additional filing obligations for you as the beneficiary. You're right that you'll need to file a nonresident return in the withholding state and claim credits on your home state return. Given the late 2025 timing, I'd definitely recommend making an estimated payment to your home state for Q4 2025, especially since you won't know the exact credit amount until you file the nonresident return. Pro tip: request all tax documents from the plan administrator as early as possible in January. Multi-state situations can take longer to sort out, and you'll want plenty of time before the April deadline. Also ask them specifically about the withholding calculation - sometimes they use the wrong state rates when there have been corporate changes.
Great advice throughout this thread! I want to add one more consideration that caught me off guard when I inherited my dad's non-qualified plan last year - make sure to ask about any outstanding loans against the account. If the deceased had taken a loan from their retirement plan that wasn't fully repaid at death, the remaining loan balance gets treated as a taxable distribution to you as the beneficiary. This won't show up in your initial paperwork but will appear on the 1099-R, and it can significantly increase the taxable amount beyond what you're expecting. In my case, there was an outstanding $12,000 loan that I had no idea about, which bumped up my taxable distribution and threw off all my estimated tax calculations. The plan administrator should be able to tell you if there are any outstanding loans, but you have to specifically ask - they don't always volunteer this information upfront. Also, if you're concerned about the tax impact of receiving a large lump sum in one year, check if the plan offers any installment payment options. Some non-qualified plans allow beneficiaries to spread distributions over multiple years, which can help with tax bracket management.
This is incredibly valuable information about outstanding loans - thank you for sharing! I never would have thought to ask about that. It's scary how these hidden details can completely change your tax situation. Your point about installment payments is interesting too. For someone like me who's already worried about being pushed into a higher tax bracket with an $80K lump sum, spreading it over multiple years could be a game changer. Do you know if there are any downsides to choosing installments over a lump sum? I'm wondering about things like investment opportunity cost or whether the plan could change their policies between payments. Also, when you say the loan balance shows up on the 1099-R, does it get coded differently than the regular distribution, or does it all just show up as one taxable amount?
Has anyone used TurboTax for reporting foreign property sales? Is it capable of handling these complex situations or should I just hire a CPA? Worried about missing something important.
I tried using TurboTax for a similar situation (sold property in Canada) and found it really lacking for international tax situations. It didn't properly guide me through Form 8938 requirements or foreign tax credit calculations. Ended up hiring a CPA with international tax experience who found several deductions TurboTax missed. For something this complex with potentially big tax implications, I'd recommend a specialist.
I went through a very similar situation when my family sold property in the Philippines last year. One thing I wish someone had told me earlier is to get all your property documents organized and translated (if needed) well before you start the tax filing process. The biggest surprise was learning about the FBAR (Foreign Bank Account Report) requirements. Since the sale proceeds sat in a foreign account temporarily while we arranged the transfer, we had to file FinCEN Form 114 because the account balance exceeded $10,000 at any point during the year. This is completely separate from your tax return and has its own filing deadline. Also, make sure to keep detailed records of all transaction costs, legal fees, and transfer fees - these can often be added to your basis or deducted as selling expenses, which reduces your taxable gain. With a $200-250k sale, even small percentage savings can add up to significant dollar amounts. One last tip: if your parents are planning to become US tax residents soon, consider consulting with an Enrolled Agent who specializes in international taxation. The timing of the sale relative to their residency status could have major tax implications, and it's worth getting professional advice upfront rather than trying to fix issues later.
This is incredibly helpful - thank you for sharing your experience! The FBAR requirement is something I definitely wouldn't have thought of. Quick question about the document translation - did you need certified translations or were regular translations acceptable? My parents have all their Vietnamese property documents but obviously they're not in English. Also, when you mention "transaction costs" that can be added to basis, does that include things like real estate agent commissions and currency exchange fees from the original purchase years ago?
Kayla Morgan
I feel for you - this exact scenario happened to me two years ago and it's absolutely maddening! The disconnect between IRS payment processing and their notice system is a real problem that affects thousands of taxpayers every year. Here's what I learned from my experience: First, absolutely respond to the CP23 in writing even though you've called. Include copies of your payment confirmation, bank statements showing the deduction, and reference your previous calls with dates and any rep ID numbers you got. Send it certified mail to create a paper trail. Second, when you call back (and you'll probably need to call again), ask specifically for a "payment processing tracer" to be initiated on your account. This is different from just having them look up your payment - it's a formal process to track down payments that are stuck in their system. Also request a collection hold while the tracer is active. The most important thing I learned: don't assume this will resolve itself automatically once they find your payment. You'll likely need to follow up to ensure any penalties and interest are properly removed. The IRS rarely reverses these automatically even when the delay was entirely on their end. Document everything, stay persistent, and know that while frustrating, this will eventually get resolved. You paid on time and have proof - that's what matters most.
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Zane Gray
ā¢This is incredibly helpful - I had no idea about the "payment processing tracer" option! That sounds much more official than just having them do a basic lookup. When you requested the tracer, did they give you any kind of timeline or tracking number so you could follow up on its progress? Also, your point about penalties and interest not being automatically reversed is really important. I'm already seeing some penalty charges on my CP23, so I'm definitely going to need to stay on top of requesting abatement once this gets sorted out. It's frustrating that we have to be so proactive about fixing their mistakes, but at least knowing what to ask for gives me some confidence going into my next call with them. Thank you for sharing your experience - it's giving me a much clearer roadmap for how to handle this situation!
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Anna Kerber
I've been following this thread closely because I'm dealing with a similar CP23 situation, and I wanted to share something that might help others avoid this mess in the future. After going through payment processing delays twice now, I've learned that the method you use to make estimated payments can significantly impact processing time. Electronic payments made through EFTPS (Electronic Federal Tax Payment System) seem to process more reliably than payments made through third-party processors or even the IRS Direct Pay system. For anyone making future estimated payments, I'd strongly recommend using EFTPS directly and keeping screenshot records of the confirmation page, not just the confirmation number. The screenshot shows the full transaction details that can be incredibly helpful if you need to dispute processing delays later. Also, for those currently dealing with this issue - when you call the IRS, ask specifically if your payment is in their "unpostable" queue. Sometimes payments get stuck there due to mismatched information (like slightly different name formatting or SSN entry errors) and require manual intervention to process. This is different from just being "slow to process" and needs a different type of resolution. The whole system is frustrating, but understanding these technical details can help you ask better questions and get more targeted help from IRS representatives.
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Amina Sow
ā¢This is excellent advice about payment methods! I wish I had known about the EFTPS system before - I made my payment through the regular IRS Direct Pay and that might explain part of my processing issues. The screenshot tip is brilliant too, I only saved the confirmation number which now seems inadequate. Your point about the "unpostable" queue is really intriguing. When I called last week, the rep just said my payment was "still processing" but didn't mention anything about it potentially being stuck in a specific queue. That could explain why it's been sitting there for months without any movement. I'm definitely going to ask about this specifically when I call back. Do you happen to know if there's a way to check EFTPS payment status directly, or do you still have to go through the regular IRS channels for updates? It would be nice to have some visibility into where payments actually stand in their system rather than just getting vague "still processing" responses. Thanks for sharing these technical insights - this kind of detailed information is exactly what we need to navigate their bureaucratic maze more effectively!
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