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Has anyone dealt with FIRPTA withholding for LLCs with foreign partners that own US real estate? We have the regular income withholding figured out, but now we're selling a property and I'm not sure how that interacts with all this.
Yes, that's a whole separate withholding regime! For FIRPTA, you generally need to withhold 15% of the gross sales price when the LLC sells US real property if you have foreign partners. This is reported on Form 8288.
I've been through this exact confusion with our LLC that has partners in the UK and Australia. The key insight that finally clicked for me is that these are different taxes on different things at different times. Section 1446 withholding (Form 8813) is on the foreign partner's SHARE of partnership income - you withhold this regardless of whether you actually distribute anything. Think of it as withholding on their "allocated" income. Section 1472 (FATCA) withholding is on actual PAYMENTS to foreign entities that haven't provided proper documentation. But here's the crucial part - if you're distributing profits that have already been subject to Section 1446 withholding, and your foreign partner has provided proper W-8 forms, you typically don't need to withhold again under FATCA. The double taxation concern you mentioned is valid - the IRS doesn't want to tax the same income twice. The confusion often comes from not distinguishing between "income allocation" (what triggers 1446) versus "actual distributions" (what might trigger 1472). For your Canadian and UK partners, make sure they provide W-8BEN or W-8BEN-E forms claiming treaty benefits. This documentation helps establish that distributions of previously taxed partnership income shouldn't be subject to additional withholding. I'd recommend documenting which distributions relate to income that's already been subject to 1446 withholding - this creates a clear paper trail showing you're not double-taxing.
This is exactly the clarity I needed! Thank you for breaking down the difference between income allocation vs actual distributions. I think our confusion was coming from treating them as the same thing. Just to make sure I understand - if we've already done the Section 1446 withholding on our foreign partner's share of income through Form 8813, and they've provided the proper W-8 forms, then when we distribute those same profits later, we shouldn't need to withhold the additional 30% under FATCA? The documentation piece makes sense too. We should be able to trace which distributions correspond to income we've already withheld on. This would really help us avoid the double taxation issue I was worried about. Our partners are from Canada and the UK, so the tax treaties should definitely help here. I'll make sure we get the proper W-8 forms from them ASAP.
Check your bank statement carefully! Sometimes the bank takes processing fees too. My credit union charged me a $15 "transfer processing fee" for receiving my tax refund through direct deposit last year. It wasn't the tax preparer or the IRS, it was my own bank!
I didn't even think to check that! Would my bank be allowed to charge me without telling me first? Should I call them or go in person to ask about this?
Yes, banks can definitely charge fees for processing certain types of deposits, including tax refunds - especially those coming through third-party processors like SBTPG. These fees are usually disclosed in your account terms and conditions, but most people never read those. I'd recommend calling your bank's customer service line first. Have your account statement ready so you can reference the specific deposit transaction. Ask them directly if any fees were applied to your tax refund deposit. If you're not satisfied with their answer over the phone, then consider visiting in person and asking to speak with a manager who can provide documentation of any fees charged.
Similar thing happened to me but mine was actually a tax offset due to a really old unpaid parking ticket I forgot about from like 6 years ago!! The city reported it to the treasury offset program. The IRS should have sent you a letter explaining why your refund was different than expected.
How do parking tickets even get reported to the IRS? That's crazy. I've got a couple unpaid ones from when I was visiting Chicago last year. Should I be worried about my refund too?
Not all parking tickets get reported to the Treasury Offset Program, but some cities and counties do participate. It usually has to be a significant amount or have gone through collections first. Chicago does participate in the program, so if your tickets have been sent to collections and you owe more than a certain threshold (I think it's around $25-50), they could potentially offset your federal refund. You should check the city's website or call their parking violations bureau to see if your tickets are eligible for federal offset. Better to pay them now than lose part of your refund later!
Is anyone else finding the IRS ITIN renewal process totally baffling in 2025??? Their website keeps giving me error messages when trying to check my ITIN status. And the PDF of Form W-7 won't even download properly on my phone. This whole system feels designed to be impossible to navigate.
Try using a computer instead of your phone for government websites - they're notoriously bad on mobile. The IRS site was actually updated last month and works better now. Form W-7 is here: https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/fw7.pdf
Just went through this exact same process last month for my green card application! A few things that might help: First, make sure you're clear on which type of Tax ID you have. If it's an ITIN and you haven't filed taxes with it in 3+ years, it's likely expired and you'll need Form W-7 to renew. If it's an EIN for a business, those don't expire. For the renewal, you'll definitely want to get your tax compliance sorted out first - USCIS really scrutinizes tax history during the naturalization process. I had to get transcripts going back 5 years to prove I was current on all filings. One tip: if you're in a time crunch, consider visiting an IRS Taxpayer Assistance Center in person rather than mailing everything. They can verify your documents on the spot and it tends to be faster than the mail process. You can schedule an appointment on the IRS website. Good luck with your citizenship application - having all the tax documentation properly organized will definitely help your case!
This is really helpful, thank you! I'm actually in the same boat with my naturalization process coming up. Quick question - when you got your tax transcripts, did you request them online or had to go in person? I've heard the online system can be finicky for ITIN holders. Also, did USCIS ask for anything specific beyond just proving you filed, or did they want to see actual payment records too?
This is exactly what happened to me last year! The frustrating part is that the IRS notices are so cryptic - they don't clearly explain what "TP TAX FIGURES" and "IMF TOTAL TAX" actually mean or why there's a difference. In my case, the $200+ discrepancy turned out to be related to how I calculated the Additional Child Tax Credit. I had used the worksheet correctly, but there was a limitation based on my earned income that the IRS computer caught that I missed. One thing that helped me was getting the Account Transcript (not just the Return Transcript) - it shows more detailed transaction codes that can help you pinpoint exactly where the adjustment occurred. You can request it online through your IRS account or by calling. Don't give up if you're confident in your calculations. Sometimes the IRS makes mistakes too, and you have the right to challenge their correction if you can provide supporting documentation.
Thank you for mentioning the Account Transcript vs Return Transcript difference! I had no idea there were different types. I've only been looking at what I thought was "the transcript" but it sounds like I might need the more detailed one to really understand what's happening with my specific situation. The Additional Child Tax Credit issue you mentioned sounds similar to what might be happening with mine - I did claim that credit and used the worksheet, but maybe I missed something about the earned income limitation. Did you end up having to file an amended return to fix it, or were you able to resolve it just by explaining the discrepancy to the IRS?
I went through this exact same situation about 6 months ago and it was incredibly stressful! The difference between TP TAX FIGURES and IMF TOTAL TAX on my transcript was about $340, and like you, I was convinced the IRS had made an error. After weeks of trying to figure it out, I discovered the issue was with how I had calculated my Earned Income Tax Credit. I had used the correct income figures, but I missed a subtle rule about how investment income affects EITC eligibility. The IRS computer system caught this automatically when it cross-referenced my 1099-INT forms. My advice: Don't assume you made the error, but also don't assume the IRS did. Get your hands on every piece of documentation - your Account Transcript, all your tax documents, and any third-party reporting forms (W-2s, 1099s, etc.). Compare line by line what you reported versus what third parties reported to the IRS. The good news is that if you can prove your calculation was correct, the IRS will absolutely reverse their adjustment. I've seen it happen. But you need solid documentation to support your position. Keep pushing for answers - that $287 difference could very well be rightfully yours!
This is really helpful - the EITC investment income rule is so easy to miss! I'm curious, when you were gathering all that documentation to compare what you reported vs what third parties reported, did you find any discrepancies that weren't immediately obvious from just looking at your return? I'm wondering if there might be some subtle reporting differences between my W-2 and what I entered that I'm not catching. The $287 difference feels too specific to be a random calculation error, so there's probably something concrete causing it that I just haven't identified yet.
Carmen Ortiz
I waited until February 15th last year before filing because my PayPal 1099K came super late despite the January 31 deadline. Some companies just don't meet the deadline and there's basically no consequence for them. So frustrating!
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Andre Rousseau
ā¢If you're worried about filing and then getting a form later, you could always file an extension. Gives you until October to file your actual return, though you still need to pay any taxes you estimate you owe by April 15.
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Ravi Kapoor
Based on everything discussed here, it sounds like you're in good shape to file now without waiting. Since you made $780 through PayPal, you're well under the $5,000 threshold for 2024, so PayPal isn't required to send you a 1099-K anyway. The fact that you've already included all your PayPal income on Schedule C is exactly what you should be doing. You're legally required to report all income regardless of whether you receive tax forms for it, and it sounds like you've got detailed records which is the most important thing. I'd recommend going ahead and filing rather than waiting. If by some chance you did receive a 1099-K later (which seems unlikely given the threshold), it wouldn't create a problem since you've already reported more income than what would be on the form. The IRS is looking at your total reported income, not trying to match every individual transaction to a form. Getting your refund processed sooner is definitely a nice bonus for being organized with your record-keeping!
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