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Don't forget about quarterly estimated tax payments! Since you don't have taxes withheld as a self-employed person (whatever they call you), you likely need to make quarterly payments to avoid penalties. The safe harbor is generally paying either 90% of this year's tax or 100% of last year's tax (110% if your AGI was over $150k). Missing these payments can result in penalties even if you pay everything you owe by April 15.
How do you calculate what to pay each quarter if your income is irregular? I have some months where I make a lot and others where it's nearly nothing.
For irregular income, you have a few options. The easiest is to use the "safe harbor" rule - pay 100% of last year's total tax liability divided by 4 quarters (110% if your AGI was over $150k). This protects you from penalties even if you end up owing more at year-end. If you want to be more precise, you can use Form 2210 Schedule AI to calculate based on actual income each quarter. This means paying higher amounts in good months and lower (or zero) in slow months. Just make sure you keep detailed records of when you received payments. Another approach is to set aside a percentage of each payment as it comes in (typically 25-30% for self-employment) in a separate tax savings account. Then when quarterly deadlines hit, you'll have funds available regardless of that quarter's specific income timing.
This is such a helpful thread! I'm dealing with a similar situation where one client calls me a "vendor" and another calls me a "contractor," but it sounds like the tax treatment is the same regardless of their internal terminology. One thing I'd add - if you're worried about documentation, I've found it helpful to keep copies of all invoices I send to clients, along with their payment confirmations and any email correspondence about the work relationship. Even if they don't send 1099s, having a clear paper trail of the business relationship can be valuable. Also, don't forget to look into business insurance if you haven't already. As a self-employed person, you might want professional liability or general liability coverage depending on your field. Some clients even require it before they'll work with you. The quarterly estimated tax payments mentioned above are crucial - I learned this the hard way my first year and got hit with penalties. Setting aside money from each payment as it comes in is definitely the way to go!
Great advice about keeping detailed records! I'm new to self-employment and this whole thread has been incredibly helpful. One question - when you mention business insurance, how do you even figure out what type you need? I'm doing marketing consulting work and have no idea where to start with insurance requirements. Also, do most clients actually ask to see proof of insurance before working with you, or is that more industry-specific?
Make sure you understand the difference between tax WITHHOLDING and actual tax LIABILITY. If you reduce withholding too much, you'll just owe a big payment when you file your taxes next year. My brother thought he was "smart" by claiming a bunch of allowances on his old W4, then got hit with a $7k tax bill plus penalties. Just be careful!
This is really important! I made this mistake last year. The IRS withholding calculator helps prevent this - it estimates your total tax liability for the year and helps you withhold just the right amount, not too much or too little.
Based on your numbers, you're definitely having too much federal tax withheld. With $3100 weekly gross pay and the deductions you mentioned (10% 401k + $280 health insurance), your federal withholding should be closer to $350-380 per week, not $450. Here's what I'd recommend: Use the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator first to get a baseline, then fill out a new W4. Since the 2020 W4 doesn't use allowances anymore, focus on Step 4(c) - enter a negative amount to reduce your weekly withholding. Based on your situation, try "-70" to reduce federal withholding by $70 per week. Also double-check your pay stub for any other deductions you might have missed - sometimes there are small items like disability insurance or union dues that add up. And make sure your filing status on the W4 matches what you'll actually file (single vs married). The key is finding the sweet spot where you get more take-home pay now without owing a big tax bill next April. Start conservative with the reduction and adjust if needed.
This is really helpful advice! I'm in a similar situation and have been struggling with the new W4 format. One question - when you say to use "-70" in Step 4(c), is that definitely how it works? I want to make sure I'm not accidentally increasing my withholding instead of decreasing it. The form language is a bit confusing about whether you put positive or negative numbers there. Also, should I wait a full pay period to see the results before making any other adjustments, or is it safe to make multiple changes if the first one doesn't get me close enough to my target?
Does anyone know if there's an income limit for the Lifetime Learning Credit? I think I might be getting close to the phaseout and I'm worried I won't qualify even though I have the expenses.
Yeah there's definitely an income limit. For 2023 taxes, the LLC starts phasing out at $80,000 modified AGI for single filers and $160,000 for married filing jointly. It's completely phased out at $90,000 for single and $180,000 for joint. For 2024, those numbers are slightly higher due to inflation adjustments. The IRS usually updates them each year.
Thanks for the info! That's actually a relief - my income is around $65k so I should be well under the phase-out limit. Glad I can still take advantage of the credit for my last semester of grad school.
Great question Sofia! I was in a similar situation a few years back. Yes, you can absolutely claim the Lifetime Learning Credit after using up your 4 years of AOTC - that's exactly what it's designed for! The LLC allows you to claim 20% of up to $10,000 in qualified education expenses (so max $2,000 credit). Those monthly $350 payments you made should definitely qualify as long as they were for tuition and required fees. The fact that FAFSA covered most expenses doesn't disqualify you - you can claim the LLC on the portion you paid out of pocket. Just make sure you keep good records of what those payments covered. Download official receipts from your student portal showing the breakdown of fees - this will be important if you ever get audited. The IRS wants to see exactly what the payments were for, not just bank statements. Also double-check your income limits - the LLC phases out starting at $80k for single filers, so you should be fine unless you're in a higher income bracket.
This is really helpful info! I'm actually just starting college next year and trying to understand how these education credits work long-term. So if I understand correctly, I should use the AOTC for my first 4 years since it's more generous (up to $2,500 vs $2,000 for LLC), and then switch to LLC for any additional years? Also, do these credits apply per student or per family? Like if I have a sibling in college at the same time, can my parents claim both credits?
I had almost the exact same thing happen to me two years ago - my first name was spelled "Micheal" instead of "Michael" on my return. I was panicking about depositing the check, but it turned out to be no big deal at all. I took it to my bank and explained the situation to the teller. She just had me show my ID, confirmed my SSN matched what was on file, and deposited it without any issues. The key is that all your other identifying information (SSN, last name, address) is correct - that's what really matters to both the bank and the IRS. Don't stress about calling the IRS right now. Just have your accountant fix it on next year's return and you'll be all set. The one-letter typo won't cause any long-term problems as long as it gets corrected going forward. Your SSN is your primary identifier with the IRS anyway, not your name spelling.
Thanks for sharing your experience! That's really reassuring to hear from someone who went through the exact same situation. I was getting myself worked up over nothing it sounds like. I think I'll just go to my bank tomorrow and explain the situation like you did. Hopefully my teller will be as understanding as yours was. It's good to know that the SSN is really what they care about most. I'll definitely make sure my accountant gets it right next year though!
I work at a credit union and can confirm what others are saying - minor spelling errors on tax refund checks are rarely an issue for deposit. We see this all the time, especially during tax season. As long as your SSN matches our records and you can provide valid ID, we'll typically process the deposit without problems. The key things we look for are: 1) SSN matches account holder, 2) ID verification, and 3) the check is properly endorsed. A single letter difference in the first name won't typically cause rejection, especially when everything else is correct. If you're concerned about pushback, I'd recommend going to a teller rather than using mobile deposit or ATM. That way you can explain the situation upfront and avoid any automated flags. Most tellers have dealt with this before and know how to handle it. Just bring your ID and be ready to explain that it's an accountant error that will be corrected on future returns.
This is super helpful to hear from someone who actually works at a financial institution! I'm a newcomer here but have been lurking and reading all the responses. Your advice about going to a teller instead of using mobile deposit makes a lot of sense - I hadn't thought about automated systems potentially flagging the discrepancy. It's reassuring to know that credit unions and banks see this type of thing regularly during tax season. I'll definitely bring my ID and be upfront about the accountant error when I go in. Thanks for the professional insight!
This is exactly the kind of reassurance I needed to hear! As someone new to this community, I really appreciate getting advice from a financial professional. I've been stressed about this all day since I got my refund check. Your point about going to a teller instead of using mobile deposit is really smart - I was planning to just use the ATM but now I'll definitely talk to someone in person. It's good to know that this happens often enough that tellers are used to handling it. Thanks for taking the time to share your expertise!
Miguel HernΓ‘ndez
Another option nobody mentioned is setting up EFTPS (Electronic Federal Tax Payment System). It's clunky and takes like 2 weeks to get set up bc they mail you a PIN, but once it's active you can schedule all your quarterly payments in advance. The verification for that was easier for me as a first-timer than the regular IRS payment site.
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Sasha Ivanov
β’EFTPS is definitely the way to go for long-term, but doesn't the initial registration also require verification with previous tax info? I tried this route first but got stuck at the same verification step.
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Tasia Synder
I went through this exact same frustration when I started my consulting business! The verification loop is so annoying when you're trying to be responsible about quarterly payments. What worked for me was using my AGI and filing status from my most recent W-2 return (2023) for the verification step. The system doesn't actually care that it wasn't self-employment income - it just needs to verify you're really you using ANY previous tax filing. If you're still stuck, try the EFTPS system that Miguel mentioned. The verification process there was slightly different and I found it easier to navigate as a first-timer. Yes, you have to wait for the PIN in the mail which is annoying, but once it's set up you can schedule all your quarterly payments for the year in one sitting. Don't let this discourage you from staying on top of your quarterlies - you're already ahead of so many freelancers by thinking about this early!
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Marina Hendrix
β’This is really helpful advice! I'm in a similar situation as a new freelance writer and was getting so frustrated with the verification process. Quick question - when you used your W-2 info for verification, did you need the exact refund amount or just the AGI? I'm worried about entering the wrong information and getting locked out of the system completely.
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