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This is such a helpful thread! I'm dealing with a similar situation but have an additional wrinkle - I refinanced my rental property through a cash-out refi and used some of the proceeds to pay off credit card debt that was originally used for property repairs from the previous year. How should I handle the allocation of refinancing costs in this case? Do I need to separate the costs based on the portion that was for the original loan balance versus the cash-out portion? And does it matter that the cash-out was used to pay off debt that was originally for property-related expenses? I paid about $3,800 in total closing costs on a $180K refinance where $135K paid off the existing mortgage and $45K was cash out. My accountant wasn't sure how to advise me on this, so I'm hoping someone here has dealt with a similar situation.
This is a really complex situation that I've actually seen come up before. Generally, when you do a cash-out refinance on rental property, you need to allocate the closing costs between the portion that refinanced the existing debt versus the cash-out portion. For the $135K that paid off your existing mortgage, those allocated closing costs would follow the normal refinancing rules (some added to basis, some amortized). For the $45K cash-out portion, the allocated closing costs would typically need to be amortized over the loan term since they're essentially treated as loan acquisition costs for new borrowing. The fact that you used the cash-out to pay off property-related credit card debt might help support treating more of the costs as rental-related, but the key is the allocation itself. You'd probably want to allocate based on the dollar amounts: roughly 75% of closing costs ($2,850) for the refinance portion and 25% ($950) for the cash-out portion. I'd strongly recommend getting a second opinion from a tax professional who specializes in rental properties, as this type of mixed-use refinancing can have some tricky implications that are highly fact-specific.
I've been through this exact situation with multiple rental properties over the years. Here's what I've learned from experience and working with my CPA: **The key principle**: Refinancing costs for rental properties are generally treated as loan costs that must be amortized over the life of the loan, NOT added to the property's cost basis. This is different from acquisition costs when you first purchase the property. **Costs that are typically amortized over the loan term:** - Loan origination fees - Points paid to the lender - Mortgage broker fees - Appraisal fees (since they're for the lender's benefit) - Credit report fees **Costs that may be added to basis:** - Recording fees for the deed - Title insurance (sometimes - depends on specifics) - Legal fees for title work **Important note**: Your $4,200 in refinancing costs will likely be mostly amortizable expenses rather than basis additions. For a 30-year loan, you'd deduct about $140 per year ($4,200 Γ· 30 years) on Schedule E. I'd recommend getting a professional review of your specific closing statement, as the treatment can vary based on exactly what each fee was for. The distinction matters significantly for your taxes both now and when you eventually sell the property.
This is really helpful clarification! I think I've been confusing refinancing costs with acquisition costs this whole time. So if I understand correctly, when I originally bought my rental property 5 years ago, those closing costs (title insurance, recording fees, etc.) went to basis. But when I refinanced 2 years ago, most of those costs should be amortized instead? That makes the math much simpler - I was trying to figure out how to split my $4,200 between different categories, but it sounds like the vast majority should just be amortized at $140/year over the 30-year loan term. Do you happen to know if there's a specific IRS form or worksheet that tracks this amortization? I want to make sure I'm documenting it properly in case of an audit.
The IRS NEVER asks for power of attorney FOR THEMSELVES!! This is almost certainly a SCAM. The IRS doesn't work this way. They might ask you to get representation through Form 2848 but they don't ask for power over your affairs!!
I think the OP is just confused about terminology. They probably received a Form 2848 and misunderstood what it's for. It happens all the time with tax stuff - the language is confusing.
@Diego, I understand your confusion - the terminology around tax forms can be really misleading! Based on what you're describing, this is almost certainly Form 2848 (Power of Attorney and Declaration of Representative), which is NOT you giving power to the IRS, but rather you designating someone to represent YOU when dealing with the IRS. This is actually a protective measure for taxpayers. When tax disputes get complex, the IRS often recommends (or requires) that you have professional representation - like a CPA, enrolled agent, or tax attorney. Form 2848 authorizes that professional to speak with the IRS on your behalf, access your tax records for the specific years/issues you designate, and handle correspondence about your case. You maintain full control - you choose who represents you, you can limit what they're authorized to do, and you can revoke their authority at any time with Form 2848-R. The IRS isn't asking for control over your affairs; they're asking you to get proper representation to help resolve your dispute more efficiently. Before signing anything, make sure you understand exactly which form they want and what it's for. If you're still unsure, consider calling the IRS directly or consulting with a tax professional who can review the specific documentation they sent you.
This is really helpful clarification! I had no idea there was a difference between giving the IRS power of attorney versus designating someone to represent you TO the IRS. The terminology is so confusing - when I first heard "power of attorney" I immediately thought it meant giving up control of my finances or something scary like that. @Reina, do you know if there are any red flags to watch out for when choosing a tax representative? Like qualifications they should have or questions I should ask before authorizing someone on Form 2848?
One tip I haven't seen mentioned: get a credit card that categorizes expenses for you and provides year-end summaries. I use the American Express Business Gold card for my S Corp, and their reporting makes tax time much easier. Their year-end summary breaks everything down by category, which my accountant loves.
Do you know if Chase business cards offer something similar? I already have a Chase personal card and was thinking of sticking with them for my S Corp.
Chase does offer categorization and reporting for their business cards, though in my experience it's not quite as detailed as Amex. Chase's Ink cards give you quarterly reports and a year-end summary that breaks down expenses by category. The Chase mobile app also lets you tag transactions and add notes, which is helpful for remembering the business purpose. If you already have a relationship with Chase, it's definitely convenient to stick with them - just make sure you're supplementing their reports with your own record-keeping system.
Don't overthink this! I've had an S Corp for 3 years and here's what I do: business credit card for all business expenses, personal card for all personal stuff. I pay the business card from my business checking account. I use Wave (free) to track everything and my accountant handles the rest at tax time. Keep it simple!
Just wanted to add that I'm a small seller too (I sell custom dog bandanas) and I keep a super detailed spreadsheet of all my income and expenses throughout the year. Even without a 1099-K, if you get audited, the IRS will look at your bank deposits and payment app history. Better to report everything properly and pay the taxes than risk penalties and interest later!
What kind of spreadsheet do you use? I'm trying to get organized for next year and have no idea where to start tracking all this stuff.
I use a pretty simple Excel spreadsheet with different tabs. The main tab has columns for Date, Item Sold, Amount, Payment Method, and Fees. I have another tab for expenses broken down by categories like Materials, Shipping Supplies, Marketing, etc. I also take screenshots of my payment app summaries at the end of each month as backup. The key is to update it regularly - I do it every Sunday night so it never becomes overwhelming. Some people use apps like QuickBooks Self-Employed, but honestly for a small side hustle, a simple spreadsheet works fine as long as you're consistent with it.
fyi i didnt report my etsy income last year (about 5k) and nothing happened. the irs has bigger fish to fry than small sellers. just sayin
That's terrible advice. The IRS has a 3-year window to audit returns (and longer in some cases), so "nothing happened" YET. They're also dramatically increasing enforcement for small businesses with the new funding they received. Not worth the risk for what would probably be a few hundred in taxes.
I have to agree with @Layla Sanders here - not reporting income is never a good strategy. The IRS has been cracking down on unreported income from payment apps and online platforms. They re'getting better at cross-referencing data from Venmo, PayPal, Square, etc. Even if you don t'get a 1099-K, they can still see patterns of business deposits. The penalties and interest if you get caught later will be way more than just paying the taxes upfront. Plus, if you re'running a legitimate business, you want to build a paper trail for things like business loans or credit in the future.
Amina Diop
Been through this exact same situation! Those codes are actually telling a pretty clear story once you know how to read them. The 846 code shows your original refund, then 971 means they sent you an audit notice, 420/421 show the examination period, and that 300 code is the big one - it means they assessed additional tax based on what they found during the audit. The fact that you're seeing the 421 "closed examination" code means the audit is officially done, which is actually good news! You should expect a bill in the mail within the next few weeks showing exactly how much you owe. Don't panic though - they usually give you payment plan options. If you want to understand exactly what each code means and get a timeline of what to expect next, I'd definitely recommend checking out taxr.ai like others mentioned. It helped me decode my transcript when I was in the same boat and really reduced my stress about the whole situation!
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Noah Ali
β’Thanks for breaking this down! Really appreciate the detailed explanation. Quick follow-up - you mentioned payment plan options when the bill comes. Are those pretty reasonable or do they hit you with crazy interest rates? Also curious if taxr.ai showed you any options for disputing the assessment if you think they got something wrong during the audit?
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Matthew Sanchez
Ugh, I feel for you! Just went through something similar last year and those transcript codes are like trying to read hieroglyphics. From what you've described, it sounds like your audit is officially closed (that 421 code) but they found something that resulted in additional tax owed (the 300 code). The timeline you mentioned is pretty typical - they often take months to work through audits. You should definitely get a notice in the mail soon explaining exactly what you owe and giving you payment options. In the meantime, if you want to get ahead of it and understand exactly what's happening, I'd suggest checking out taxr.ai like others have mentioned. It can decode all those confusing codes and give you a clear picture of your situation before the official notice arrives. Hang in there - the hard part (the actual audit) is behind you now!
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