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Micah Trail

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good luck getting thru tho. been on hold for 2 hrs today already

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Sean Kelly

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Been dealing with this exact same issue! My transcript shows 846 code but WMR is still stuck on "processing" - it's so frustrating when you need that money ASAP. From what I've learned lurking here, if your transcript doesn't show "DPC" next to the 846 code, you're probably getting a paper check. Also check if there's any freeze codes (like 971 or 570) that might indicate why they switched from DD to check. The IRS systems are definitely not synced up properly between transcript and WMR updates šŸ™„

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Lourdes Fox

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@Sean Kelly this is super helpful! I didn t'know about the DPC thing next to the 846 code. Just checked my transcript and no DPC so looks like I m'getting a check too šŸ˜” Do you know roughly how long it takes for the check to arrive once the 846 code shows up? I m'in the same boat needing this money urgently

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has anyone read the book "treasure islands" by nicholas shaxson? it has some great detailed examples of cayman arrangements. there's a whole chapter on how citibank set up structured investment vehicles in the caymans before the 2008 financial crisis. the author also explains how investment banks create "orphan companies" in the caymans that technically aren't owned by anyone but still funnel profits back to the parent company. crazy stuff!

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Dylan Wright

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That book is fantastic! There's also "The Hidden Wealth of Nations" by Gabriel Zucman that goes deep into the numbers. Estimates that 8% of global financial wealth is in tax havens with the Caymans being one of the biggest.

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Ethan Wilson

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Great recommendations everyone! I'd also suggest checking out the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations reports - they've published several detailed studies on tax haven abuse that include specific Cayman Islands case studies. One report from 2008 called "Tax Haven Banks and U.S. Tax Compliance" goes into detail about how UBS and other banks helped U.S. clients set up Cayman structures. Another from 2013 examines Apple's use of Irish subsidiaries that were tax residents of nowhere (including Cayman connections). The Congressional Budget Office also publishes data on U.S. companies' foreign profits by jurisdiction. Their 2017 report shows that U.S. multinationals reported about $70 billion in profits from the Cayman Islands despite the tiny economy there - a clear indicator of profit shifting. For a more recent angle, look into how private equity firms use Cayman structures. The Wall Street Journal has done several investigative pieces showing how firms like Blackstone and KKR route investments through Cayman entities to minimize taxes for their wealthy investors.

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Chloe Davis

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This is exactly the type of detailed sourcing I was hoping for! The Senate subcommittee reports sound particularly useful since they'd have access to information that might not be publicly available otherwise. Do you know if those reports are easily accessible online, or do you need to go through some government database? Also really interested in the private equity angle - hadn't thought about how PE firms might use these structures differently than regular corporations.

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Something no one mentioned yet - another option might be taking a distribution from an IRA instead of your 401k if you have one. You can do a 60-day rollover where you essentially give yourself a short-term loan without penalties as long as you put it back within 60 days.

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Marcus Marsh

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Be careful with this advice. You can only do one IRA rollover per 12-month period. If you do more than one, the additional distributions are taxable AND subject to the 10% penalty if you're under 59½. I learned this the hard way last year.

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I'm going through a divorce too and learned the hard way that attorney advice on tax matters isn't always accurate. My lawyer also told me I could avoid penalties, but when I consulted with a CPA, I found out it's much more limited than she suggested. The key thing to understand is that penalty-free withdrawals during divorce usually only apply when money is being transferred directly to your ex-spouse as part of the divorce settlement (through a QDRO). If you're withdrawing money to pay your own expenses - even divorce-related ones like legal fees - you'll likely still face the 10% penalty. Before you make any moves, I'd strongly recommend getting a second opinion from a tax professional who specializes in retirement account distributions. The $1,800 penalty on an $18,000 withdrawal might seem worth it now, but you don't want any surprises at tax time. Also check if your 401k plan offers loans - that could be a better option than a withdrawal if you can qualify and repay it on schedule.

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Yara Elias

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This is really helpful advice - thank you for sharing your experience! I'm realizing I definitely need to talk to a tax professional before making any decisions. The distinction between transferring money to an ex-spouse versus withdrawing for personal expenses makes a lot of sense. Did you end up finding any legitimate ways to access your retirement funds during the divorce process, or did you have to look at other options for covering your expenses? I'm trying to weigh all my options before potentially taking that penalty hit.

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Mei Lin

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Is anyone else noticing that using TurboTax for rental property depreciation is a total nightmare? I've been trying to enter my rental room information but it keeps giving me strange calculations.

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I switched to FreeTaxUSA last year and found it much better for rental properties. It asks clearer questions about partial rentals and walks you through the depreciation calculations step by step. Plus it's a lot cheaper than TurboTax.

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Mei Lin

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Thanks for the recommendation! I'll definitely check that out. TurboTax has been so frustrating with this rental stuff that I was considering paying an accountant just for this part of my taxes.

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One thing to keep in mind is that when you're calculating your depreciation percentage, you'll want to be consistent year over year. Once you establish your allocation method (like the 35-45% we've been discussing), the IRS expects you to use the same methodology unless there's a significant change in how the space is used. Also, make sure you're tracking any improvements you make to the rental portion of your home separately. If you renovate the tenant's bathroom or bedroom, those costs can be depreciated over their own schedules, which might be different from the main house depreciation. For your first year, you'll only be able to claim a partial year of depreciation based on when you actually started renting the room. The IRS uses a "mid-month convention" for residential rental property, so if you started renting in April, you'd only claim 8.5 months of depreciation for this year. Don't forget to keep detailed records of everything - square footage measurements, photos of the spaces, rental agreements, and all your calculations. Good documentation will save you a lot of headaches if you ever get audited.

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Yuki Ito

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This is such a common source of confusion! I dealt with a similar situation when my grandmother passed and left her house to my mom, who then sold it and shared the proceeds with us kids. The key distinction everyone has highlighted is absolutely correct - once that house transferred to your mom through probate, it became her asset. The money she's giving you now is coming from her, not directly from your father's estate, so it's definitely a gift from her perspective. One thing I'd add that might be helpful: if your mom is concerned about the gift tax implications, she could also consider making the gifts over multiple years. She could give you and your brother each $17,000 this year, then another $17,000 next year, and the remaining $6,000 the following year. This would keep everything under the annual exclusion and avoid any filing requirements entirely. Also, don't stress about the tax implications for yourself - as others have mentioned, you won't owe any taxes on receiving this money regardless of how it's classified. The "tax burden" (really just a filing requirement in most cases) falls on the person making the gift, not receiving it. Your instinct to eventually consult with a tax professional is smart, especially since this involves a significant amount of money and you want to make sure your mom handles everything properly on her end.

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GalacticGuru

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This is really helpful advice! I hadn't considered spreading the payments over multiple years - that actually makes a lot of sense from a planning perspective. My mom isn't in any rush to distribute the money, so that could be a good strategy. I'm curious about one thing though - if she does decide to spread it out over multiple years, does the $17,000 annual exclusion reset each calendar year? So she could theoretically give me $17,000 in December 2025, then another $17,000 in January 2026, and it would count as separate years for gift tax purposes? Also, thank you for the reassurance about not owing taxes myself. I was getting a bit anxious about potentially having a huge tax bill on this money, so it's good to know that's not how it works!

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Yes, exactly! The $17,000 annual exclusion does reset each calendar year, so your mom could give you $17,000 in December 2025 and another $17,000 in January 2026, and they would count as separate gift tax years. This is a completely legitimate tax planning strategy that many families use. The IRS considers the gift to occur on the date it's made, so even if it's just one day apart (December 31st vs January 1st), they're treated as separate tax years for gift tax purposes. Your mom could potentially give you $17,000 in late 2025 and then $23,000 in early 2026, keeping the 2025 gift under the annual exclusion entirely and only needing to file Form 709 for the $6,000 over the limit in 2026. And you're absolutely right not to worry about owing taxes yourself - that's one of the nice things about how the U.S. gift tax system works. The recipient never owes income tax on gifts or inheritances, regardless of the amount. All the tax considerations fall on the person giving the money.

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Ana Rusula

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I'm a tax preparer and see this situation frequently during filing season. What you're describing is definitely a gift from your mother, not inheritance from your father's estate. The critical factor is that the property went through probate and became your mother's asset before she decided to share the proceeds with you. One additional consideration I haven't seen mentioned yet: if your mother is married (to someone other than your father), she and her spouse could potentially each give you $17,000 annually, effectively doubling the tax-free amount to $34,000 per year. This is called "gift splitting" and requires both spouses to consent and file gift tax returns, but it's another legitimate strategy to minimize gift tax implications. Also, make sure your mother keeps good records of the sale and any gifts. She'll want documentation showing the sale price, her basis in the property (likely the stepped-up basis from when she inherited it), and records of any gifts exceeding the annual exclusion. This will be important for both gift tax reporting and her own estate planning records. The peace of mind from getting professional advice is usually worth the cost, especially when dealing with larger amounts like this. But you're smart to educate yourself first - it sounds like you have a good understanding of the situation now.

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Luis Johnson

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Thank you for the professional insight! The gift splitting option is really interesting - I hadn't heard of that before. My mom did remarry a few years ago, so that could potentially be relevant. Just to make sure I understand correctly: if my mom and stepdad both consent to gift splitting, they could each give me $17,000 (totaling $34,000) without any filing requirements at all? And they'd both need to file gift tax returns even though neither exceeded the individual limit? I'm definitely planning to encourage my mom to keep detailed records as you suggested. She's pretty organized with financial stuff, but I want to make sure she knows this could be important for future tax filings. The stepped-up basis point is something I'll make sure she looks into as well. Really appreciate getting perspective from someone who deals with these situations professionally!

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