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$15,760 Refund Still Frozen Despite June 571 Resolution Code - Transcript Shows February Freeze & Mysterious 2023 Amendment

I filed my taxes early this year and my refund of $15,760.00 has been stuck since February. I'm getting really frustrated because the IRS seems to be holding my money with no explanation. I just pulled my transcript today (10-15-2024) to see what's going on. Looking at my IRS Account Transcript for tax period Dec. 31, 2023, I can see my account balance is -$15,760.00 with $0.00 in accrued interest and $0.00 in accrued penalties as of Jun. 24, 2024. I'm a single filer with an adjusted gross income of $21,776.00 and taxable income of $7,926.00. My tax per return was only $787.00, but I had $16,547.00 in withholdings which is why my refund is so large. The transcript shows several concerning transaction codes: - Code 150: Tax return filed - cycle 20242005 on 06-03-2024 for $787.00 - Code 806: W-2 or 1099 withholding - dated 04-15-2024 for -$16,547.00 - Code 810: Refund freeze - dated 02-16-2024 for $0.00 - Code 570: Additional account action pending - dated 06-03-2024 for $0.00 - Code 571: Resolved additional account action - dated 06-10-2024 for $0.00 - Code 977: Amended - dated 02-21-2023 for $0.00 What's confusing me is that there's a refund freeze (code 810) from February 16, 2024, then codes 570 (Additional account action pending) from June 3 and 571 (Resolved additional account action) from June 10. There's also a code 977 for an amended return from February 21, 2023, but I didn't file an amended return for that year that I recall. The processing date shows as June 03, 2024, and the return due date or return received date is listed as Apr. 15, 2024. I have zero self-employment tax as both taxpayer and spouse SE taxable income show $0.00. I've never had to revise anything before, and this is really worrying me because this is a huge amount for me. I've been trying to get through to the IRS but can't reach anyone. What's even more frustrating is that my return was filed and processed on June 3rd, 2024, but I still haven't received anything despite it showing the "Resolved additional account action" code on June 10th. Does anyone know what these codes mean together? Why would there be a freeze in February when my return wasn't even processed until June? And why would there be an amended return code from 2023? I'm completely lost and really need this money.

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Call the Tax Advocate Service. With that amount of money and this long of a wait, they might be able to help.

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That TC810 refund freeze from February is definitely the issue here. The fact that you got TC571 (resolved) in June but still no refund means there might be additional holds or manual reviews happening behind the scenes. With a refund that large compared to your income, the IRS computer systems probably flagged it for human review to verify everything is legitimate. The TC977 from 2023 could be complicating things - even though you don't remember filing an amendment, the IRS might have processed one automatically or there could be a discrepancy they're still sorting out from that year. At this point, you really need to call the IRS directly at 1-800-829-1040. Have your transcript ready and ask specifically about the TC810 hold and when it will be released. If you can't get through, definitely contact the Taxpayer Advocate Service like Romeo mentioned - they handle cases exactly like this where refunds are unreasonably delayed.

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Adriana Cohn

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Looking at your transcript codes, this is actually really promising! The 811 "Removed refund freeze" on 01-09 means your return was indeed held up (probably for routine verification) but that hold has been lifted. The 846 code with date 01-30-2025 for $4,258.37 is the big one - that's your actual refund issued date. The $292.37 interest (code 776) is because of the delay since you filed in February. You should see the money in your account within 1-5 business days after 01-30, so likely by early February. The processing is basically done at this point!

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This is super helpful! So the 846 code basically means they've already processed everything and scheduled the refund? That's such a relief after waiting almost a year. The interest is a nice bonus too I guess lol. Thanks for breaking down what all those codes actually mean!

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Wow, that's an amazing breakdown of your transcript! Seeing those specific codes with dates is such a good sign. The 811 "Removed refund freeze" explains why you've been waiting so long - your return was probably flagged for routine verification but now it's cleared. That 846 code for 01-30-2025 is basically the IRS saying "we're sending your money" so you're almost there! The interest payment is actually pretty decent too for the wait you've had to endure. Fingers crossed you see that deposit hit your account in early February! šŸ¤ž

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$23,145 Tax Refund Stuck with Code 810 Freeze Since Feb 16 - Verified Mar 5 but No DDD After Mar 27 Processing

My transcript updated on 03-28-2023 and shows a refund amount of $23,145.00. Had verification on 3/5 and everything went smooth. I'm really getting anxious because my transcript shows code 810 refund freeze from 02-16-2023, and I'm still waiting. Here's my transcript details: Internal Revenue Service United States Department of the Treasury This Product Contains Sensitive Taxpayer Data FORM NUMBER: 1040 TAX PERIOD: Dec. 31, 2022 ACCOUNT BALANCE: -$24,145.00 ACCRUED INTEREST: $0.00 AS OF: Mar. 28, 2023 ACCRUED PENALTY: $0.00 AS OF: Mar. 28, 2023 ACCOUNT BALANCE PLUS ACCRUALS (this is not a payoff amount): -$24,145.00 INFORMATION FROM THE RETURN OR AS ADJUSTED: EXEMPTIONS: 01 FILING STATUS: Single ADJUSTED GROSS INCOME: $10,124.00 TAXABLE INCOME: $0.00 TAX PER RETURN: $0.00 SE TAXABLE INCOME TAXPAYER: $0.00 SE TAXABLE INCOME SPOUSE: $0.00 TOTAL SELF EMPLOYMENT TAX: $0.00 RETURN DUE DATE OR RETURN RECEIVED DATE (WHICHEVER IS LATER): Apr. 15, 2023 PROCESSING DATE: Mar. 28, 2023 TRANSACTIONS: CODE | EXPLANATION OF TRANSACTION | CYCLE | DATE | AMOUNT 150 | Tax return filed | 20231005 | 03-28-2023 | $0.00 90221-439-34732-3 806 | W-2 or 1099 withholding | 04-16-2023 | -$244.00 810 | Refund freeze | 02-16-2023 | $0.00 766 | Credit to your account | 04-16-2023 | -$23,515.00 768 | Earned income credit | 04-16-2023 | -$586.00 My return was processed on March 28th (cycle 20231005) and shows several credits including withholding of $244.00, a credit of $23,515.00, and earned income credit of $586.00. My AGI is $10,124.00 with taxable income of $0.00. I filed as Single with 1 exemption. The return shows a processing date of Mar. 28, 2023, but I'm still stuck with that 810 freeze code. The transcript clearly shows an account balance of -$24,145.00 (which means I'm due a refund), but nothing is happening. Anyone know how long until I might see a DDD (direct deposit date)? Really need this refund soon. It's been over a month since that freeze code appeared and I've verified my identity already.

That 810 freeze code from Feb 16 combined with your March 5 verification completion puts you in a pretty typical timeline. Most people see movement 4-9 weeks after verification, so you're getting close to that window. Your transcript looks clean - no penalties, no adjustments, just waiting for that freeze to lift. Keep checking weekly for codes 571 (freeze release) and 846 (refund issued). The fact that your return processed on 3/28 is actually a good sign that everything else is moving through the system normally.

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The Boss

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This is super helpful! I'm in a similar situation - verified back in February and still waiting. Good to know the 4-9 week window is pretty standard. Really hoping to see that 571 code soon šŸ¤ž

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Yuki Sato

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That's a substantial refund amount! With your verification completed on 3/5 and processing date of 3/28, you're definitely in the waiting period that many of us know all too well. The 810 freeze from 2/16 is holding things up, but since everything else on your transcript looks clean (no adjustments, penalties, or other red flags), it's really just a matter of time now. Keep monitoring for those key codes - 571 will show the freeze being released, followed by 846 with your actual DDD. Some folks see movement as early as 4 weeks post-verification, others wait closer to 8-9 weeks. Given that you verified in early March, you should hopefully see some action in the next couple weeks. The fact that your return processed normally on 3/28 despite the freeze is actually encouraging - it means they're not finding issues with your return itself, just working through their verification backlog.

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Lilly Curtis

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9 My wife and I have filed separately for years because of her income-based student loan repayment. Your dad should be able to do your taxes without knowing your husband's income - just make sure he knows you're filing separately. Your husband will need his own preparer or software.

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Lilly Curtis

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4 How complicated was it to file separately in your experience? Did you run into any unexpected issues that someone should be aware of before choosing this option?

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Keisha Brown

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When filing married filing separately, you generally don't need to disclose your spouse's income on your return. However, there are a few key things to coordinate: 1. **Basic information needed**: Your husband's name and SSN for your return header 2. **Deduction coordination**: If one spouse itemizes, both must itemize (this could affect your business expense strategy) 3. **Certain credits**: Some require knowing if the other spouse claims them For your situation with business income, make sure those expenses go on Schedule C (business expenses) rather than Schedule A (itemized deductions) - this might allow you both to take the standard deduction. Your father can absolutely help with your return without knowing your husband's actual income amounts. Just provide him with your husband's basic identifying info and confirm your filing status. Your husband can use TurboTax for his side. One caution: Double-check that filing separately actually saves you money after accounting for lost credits (student loan interest deduction, education credits, etc.). Sometimes the tax benefits lost outweigh the student loan payment advantages.

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This is really helpful, especially the point about Schedule C vs Schedule A! I hadn't thought about that distinction. Just to clarify - if my business expenses go on Schedule C, does that mean both my husband and I could potentially take the standard deduction even though I have significant business write-offs? That would definitely make things simpler for him since he doesn't have many deductions to itemize. Also, you're absolutely right about double-checking the math on lost credits. We calculated it last year and filing separately still came out ahead because of the student loan payment reduction, but I should verify those numbers haven't changed for this tax year.

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I've been putting off the mega backdoor Roth strategy because I was confused about the withdrawal rules, but now I understand the key distinctions. It sounds like the optimal approach really depends on your specific situation and plan features. For someone like me who might need access to some funds in the next 3-4 years, the in-plan conversion to Roth 401(k) seems more appealing since it's just one 5-year clock rather than multiple ones. One follow-up question though - for those who've actually implemented this strategy, how do you keep track of all the different conversion dates and amounts? Especially if you're doing regular conversions throughout the year, it seems like it could get pretty complex to manage for tax and withdrawal planning purposes. Also, has anyone run into issues with their payroll system properly handling the after-tax contribution elections? I've heard some companies struggle with the payroll setup for this.

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Great questions about the practical implementation! For tracking conversion dates and amounts, I've found it helpful to maintain a simple spreadsheet with columns for conversion date, amount, and the date when each batch becomes penalty-free (5 years later). Most brokerages also provide year-end tax documents that break down your conversion history by tax year. Regarding payroll systems - yes, this can definitely be a pain point! Some companies use older payroll systems that weren't designed for after-tax 401(k) contributions. I'd recommend reaching out to your HR or benefits team early to confirm they can handle the setup. In some cases, you might need to work with them to ensure the contributions are properly coded as "after-tax" rather than pre-tax, since the payroll system needs to distinguish between the two for tax reporting purposes. Also worth noting that some plans require you to max out your regular 401(k) contributions before allowing after-tax contributions, so make sure you understand your plan's specific sequencing rules.

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Dylan Fisher

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This has been such an informative thread! As someone who's been hesitant about the mega backdoor Roth due to the complexity, reading everyone's experiences has really helped clarify the key decision points. The distinction between Roth IRA rollovers (multiple 5-year clocks) vs in-plan Roth conversions (single clock but limited access) is crucial. It seems like the "best" approach really depends on your timeline for potentially needing the funds and what your specific plan allows. For those still researching this strategy, it sounds like the essential first step is getting crystal clear on your plan's rules around: - After-tax contribution limits - In-service withdrawal/rollover frequency - Whether in-plan Roth conversions are available - Any sequencing requirements (like maxing regular 401k first) One thing I'm curious about - has anyone compared the long-term tax benefits of tying up funds in the mega backdoor vs keeping them more accessible in taxable accounts? I realize the tax-free growth is powerful, but wondering if the liquidity constraints ever make it not worth it for certain situations.

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You've really summarized the key decision points well! On your question about long-term tax benefits vs liquidity - this is such a personal calculation that depends on your specific situation. From my experience, the mega backdoor makes most sense when you're already maxing other retirement accounts and have sufficient emergency funds in accessible accounts. The tax-free growth is incredibly powerful over long time horizons, but you're absolutely right that liquidity matters. I've seen people run into trouble when they put too much into these restricted accounts and then needed funds for unexpected opportunities (like a home purchase or business investment). A good rule of thumb I've heard is to ensure you have at least 6-12 months of expenses in accessible accounts before maximizing the mega backdoor. The math generally favors the mega backdoor if you can leave the money untouched for 10+ years, but if there's any chance you'll need those funds in the next 5-7 years, keeping some in taxable accounts might give you more flexibility. The key is finding the right balance between tax optimization and financial flexibility for your specific goals.

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