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I've been with Wells Fargo for about 3 years now and can confirm they're pretty strict about waiting until the exact date. Unlike some of the smaller banks and credit unions that release early, Wells Fargo processes these right on schedule. Your June 12th date should be solid - I'd expect it to hit your account sometime during business hours that day. The one thing I've noticed is that if June 12th falls on a weekend, they usually process it on the Friday before, but since you're looking at a weekday you should be good. Just don't refresh your app at midnight expecting it to be there immediately - these usually post during normal banking hours.

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Omar Fawzi

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Good to know about the weekend processing! That's actually really helpful info. I was wondering what would happen if it fell on a Saturday or Sunday. Since June 12th is a Thursday this year, sounds like I should see it during regular business hours that day. Thanks for the detailed breakdown - makes me feel much better about the timing expectations with Wells Fargo.

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Diego Vargas

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Based on my experience with Wells Fargo, they're pretty conservative with deposit timing - they'll release your refund exactly on June 12th as shown on your transcript, not earlier. I switched to Wells Fargo two years ago from a local credit union that always gave me deposits 1-2 days early, so I totally understand the adjustment! The good news is that Wells Fargo is very reliable - if your transcript says June 12th, you can count on getting it that day (usually sometime during business hours). Just manage your expectations and don't expect the early release you were used to with your credit union. For future refunds, you might want to consider keeping a secondary account with an online bank like Chime or SoFi if early access to funds is important to you - many people do this specifically for the early deposit feature while keeping their primary banking with traditional banks.

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Summer Green

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This is super helpful! I'm actually in the exact same boat - switched from a credit union that always released early to Wells Fargo and wasn't sure what to expect. The dual banking strategy sounds really smart for getting the best of both worlds. Do you have any recommendations for which online banks are most reliable for early deposits? I'm thinking about setting one up specifically for tax refunds and maybe direct deposit from work too.

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Overwhelmed about filing overdue FBARs for previous years - need guidance

I discovered last week that I was supposed to be filing something called FBAR all these years. I just submitted my 2022 tax returns and filed my first FBAR, but now I'm realizing I should have been doing this since I moved to the US in 2016. I have about $38k in foreign assets from my home country (pension fund, some bonds, and a couple insurance policies). My accountant suggested I talk to a tax attorney about the missing FBAR filings, but when I started researching online, I'm seeing all these terrifying stories about massive penalties - anywhere from 5% to 50% of assets per year, $125k fines, criminal prosecution, and even jail time! This is seriously freaking me out. Since I just filed my first FBAR for 2022, I'm worried the IRS now knows I haven't filed for previous years. After spending days reading about this, I'm overwhelmed with the options: 1. Delinquent FBAR Submission 2. Criminal Investigation Voluntary Disclosure Practice 3. The Streamlined Filing Compliance Procedures Am I eligible for the Delinquent FBAR Submission (also called quiet FBAR disclosure)? Is it really as simple as: 1. Filing tax returns for 2021, 2020, and 2019, paying any taxes owed and submitting the late FBARs 2. Filing amended returns for 2018 and 2017, paying taxes owed and submitting those FBARs too Some articles suggest the Streamlined Filing Compliance Procedure might be the right approach, but it seems to involve significant penalties that would basically wipe out my life savings plus require expensive attorney fees. I've been dealing with anxiety and depression for years, and FBAR requirements weren't even on my radar. This whole situation is incredibly stressful. I feel like tax attorneys are just looking to make money off my panic. What would you recommend I do? Any guidance would be deeply appreciated.

Justin Chang

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I'm in a very similar situation and your post really resonates with me. I discovered FBAR requirements just last month when preparing my 2023 taxes, and like you, I've been living in the US since 2018 with foreign accounts I never knew needed separate reporting. After reading through all the responses here and doing my own research, I wanted to share what I learned from speaking with an EA (Enrolled Agent) who specializes in international tax issues. She confirmed that for people like us who properly reported all foreign income on our tax returns but simply didn't know about FBAR filing, the Delinquent FBAR Submission is definitely the right path. The key questions she had me ask myself were: 1) Did I report all foreign income on my tax returns? 2) Was there any intent to hide assets? 3) Are my total foreign assets under the really high thresholds that would trigger additional scrutiny? Since you mentioned your assets are around $38k and you've been properly reporting income, you should qualify for the simple delinquent filing process. The horror stories you're reading about massive penalties are typically for cases involving tax evasion or very large unreported assets. One practical tip: before you start the FBAR filings, gather all your foreign account statements for the past 6 years and create a simple spreadsheet with highest balances for each account by year. This will make the actual filing process much smoother. You've got this! The anxiety is the worst part, but the actual compliance process is more straightforward than it initially appears.

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Paolo Ricci

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Thank you so much for sharing your experience and the practical advice from your EA! It's really reassuring to hear from someone in almost the exact same situation. The three key questions you mentioned are exactly what I needed to help organize my thinking about this. I've been properly reporting all my foreign income on tax returns since I moved here, so I think I do qualify for the Delinquent FBAR Submission process. Your spreadsheet suggestion is great - I'm going to start gathering those account statements this weekend and get everything organized before I begin the actual filings. It's amazing how much the anxiety decreases when you have a clear path forward. I really appreciate you taking the time to share what you learned from your EA consultation - it's given me the confidence to move forward with this process rather than continuing to spiral with worry.

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Salim Nasir

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I completely understand the overwhelming anxiety you're feeling right now - I went through something very similar when I discovered I'd been missing FBAR filings for several years. The good news is that your situation sounds very straightforward for the Delinquent FBAR Submission process. Since you mentioned you've been properly reporting all income from your foreign accounts on your tax returns, you're exactly the type of person this process was designed for. The IRS recognizes that many people simply weren't aware of the FBAR requirement, especially immigrants who are dealing with an already complex tax system. A few things that helped calm my nerves when I was in your position: 1. The horror stories online often involve much larger amounts of money or cases where people were actively trying to hide income - that doesn't sound like your situation at all. 2. Your $38k in foreign assets puts you in a very different category than the cases that result in severe penalties. 3. The fact that you proactively filed your 2022 FBAR and are now trying to get into compliance actually works in your favor - it shows good faith effort. For the practical side, I'd recommend starting with the BSA E-Filing system to submit your missing FBARs for the past 6 years. Keep your explanation simple and honest - "I was unaware of FBAR filing requirements until 2023" is perfectly sufficient. Make sure you have your foreign account statements handy for calculating the highest balances each year. You're going to get through this, and it's likely going to be much less dramatic than your anxiety is telling you right now.

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Thank you for this incredibly reassuring perspective! As someone who's also been dealing with anxiety around this whole situation, hearing from people who've actually been through it successfully makes such a huge difference. Your point about the horror stories involving much larger amounts or intentional hiding really helps put things in perspective. I'm feeling much more confident about moving forward with the Delinquent FBAR Submission after reading all these responses. It sounds like the key is just being honest about not knowing the requirement existed, gathering the account statements properly, and filing through the BSA E-Filing system with a simple explanation. One thing that's been weighing on me is whether filing that 2022 FBAR somehow "started a clock" with the IRS, but it sounds like you're saying it actually demonstrates good faith compliance rather than creating urgency. That's really helpful to know. I'm going to start gathering my account statements this week and work on getting those historical balances organized. Thank you for taking the time to share your experience - it's exactly what I needed to hear to move from panic mode into action mode.

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Great thread everyone! As someone who went through this process last year, I wanted to add a few practical tips: 1. **PTIN timing**: While Oliver mentioned PTINs are issued quickly online, be prepared for potential delays during peak application periods (November-January). I'd recommend applying ASAP to avoid any last-minute issues. 2. **EFIN considerations**: If you're just starting out with tax prep, consider whether you actually need your own EFIN right away. Many new preparers partner with established firms or use third-party e-filing services for their first season to test the waters before committing to the full EFIN process. 3. **State requirements**: Mikayla touched on this, but definitely research your state's specific requirements. Some states require separate registrations even if you have a CPA license. California, for example, has its own CTEC registration for non-credentialed preparers, though CPAs are exempt. 4. **Insurance**: Something not mentioned yet - consider professional liability insurance once you start preparing returns for compensation. Your CPA license might provide some coverage, but tax preparation has its own specific risks. Ashley, to directly answer your question: Yes, you need the PTIN regardless of your CPA status, and getting it now will absolutely cover you for the 2024 tax season. The EFIN is only if you want to e-file directly yourself.

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This is incredibly helpful, thank you! I'm just getting started with tax prep and the insurance point is something I hadn't even considered. Do you have any recommendations for professional liability insurance providers that specialize in tax preparation? Also, when you mention "third-party e-filing services," are there specific ones you'd recommend for someone just testing the waters? I'd rather not go through the full EFIN process if I can avoid it in my first season.

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For professional liability insurance, I'd recommend checking with CAMICO or CNA - both have specific coverage for tax preparers and CPAs. Many state CPA societies also have group insurance programs that can be more affordable. As for third-party e-filing services, TaxSlayer Pro and Drake Tax are popular options that let you prepare returns and e-file without needing your own EFIN. They charge per return (usually $15-25), but it's way less hassle than getting your own EFIN when you're just starting out. FreeTaxUSA also has a professional version that's pretty user-friendly for newer preparers. Just make sure whatever service you use is IRS-authorized - they'll have a list on the IRS website under "Authorized IRS e-file Providers." This way you can focus on building your client base first year without all the regulatory overhead of managing your own EFIN.

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Ava Johnson

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One important detail that hasn't been mentioned yet - make sure you understand the difference between getting a PTIN for "occasional" vs "regular" tax preparation. The IRS considers you a tax return preparer if you prepare even ONE return for compensation, so your CPA license doesn't change that requirement. However, if you're planning to prepare more than 10 returns per year, you'll also need to complete continuing education requirements through the IRS Annual Filing Season Program (AFSP) - though as others mentioned, CPAs are exempt from this since you already have CE requirements. Also worth noting: if you decide to go the EFIN route, the IRS now requires you to maintain detailed records of all returns you e-file, including client consent forms and copies of all tax documents. It's a significant administrative burden that many new preparers underestimate. The third-party e-filing route that Sean mentioned really does make sense for your first season to see if you want to commit long-term. One last tip - consider joining your local chapter of the National Association of Tax Professionals (NATP) or similar organization. They often have resources specifically for CPAs transitioning into tax preparation and can help navigate some of these regulatory requirements.

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This is really comprehensive information, thank you Ava! The NATP suggestion is great - I hadn't thought about joining a professional organization specifically for tax prep. Quick question about the record keeping requirements for EFIN holders: do you know if there are specific software solutions that help manage all the client consent forms and document storage requirements? Or is it mostly just a matter of setting up good filing systems manually? I'm trying to weigh whether the administrative overhead is worth it versus using a third-party service for my first few seasons.

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Chloe Harris

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This is exactly why I switched from HR Block to a local CPA. The big tax prep companies are terrible at communication. The emails are automated and don't tell you anything useful about what's actually happening with your return. My CPA costs about $75 more than HR Block charged me last year, but she answers my questions directly, explains what's happening at each stage, and even has a direct line to the IRS Practitioner Hotline if there are issues. Worth every penny for the peace of mind.

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Not everyone has an extra $75 to spend though. Plus a CPA doesn't make the IRS process returns any faster. I use FreeTaxUSA and get the same timeline as people who pay hundreds for preparers. The IRS processing is what it is regardless of how you file.

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Rami Samuels

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I went through the same confusion with HR Block last year! The "accepted" email is definitely a good sign - it means your return passed the IRS's initial screening and they're moving forward with processing it. Since you mentioned you have medical bills to pay, here's what helped me track my refund more closely: I set up direct deposit if you haven't already (speeds things up by about a week versus a paper check), and I bookmarked the IRS "Where's My Refund" tool to check weekly rather than daily. With a $3,400 refund, you're probably looking at 2-3 weeks from the acceptance date if it's a straightforward return. The fact that HR Block shows "processing" status is normal - they usually don't update their system again until the IRS actually issues the refund. One thing to watch for: if your refund amount changes when you check the IRS tool, that could indicate they made adjustments to your return. But if the amount stays consistent with what you're expecting, you should be good to go!

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Hey Malik! I totally get your frustration - that 33% withholding definitely feels like a punch to the gut when you're used to your full paycheck amount. The good news is that you have several solid options to fix this. Since you're single with no dependents, you're definitely overwithholding by claiming 0. On the new W-4 form (which doesn't use allowances anymore), you'd want to just check "Single" in the filing status section and leave most other sections blank for a basic situation like yours. One thing I'd suggest before making any changes: take a close look at your pay stub breakdown like Sean mentioned. Make sure you understand what's federal income tax vs. FICA vs. state taxes. If your federal withholding alone is more than about 15-20% of your gross pay, you're probably withholding too much. You can always start conservative - submit a new W-4 with just your filing status and see how your next few paychecks look. If you're still overwithholding, you can always adjust again. Better to make gradual changes than to swing too far in the other direction and end up owing at tax time!

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This is really helpful advice! I'm actually in a similar situation - just graduated and started my first job a few months ago. I've been seeing about 30% of my paycheck disappear too and wasn't sure if that was normal. Reading through all these responses has been eye-opening, especially learning that the W-4 doesn't even use allowances anymore! I think I'll try the gradual approach you mentioned - just update my filing status first and see how it goes. Better safe than sorry since I have no idea what to expect come tax season. Thanks for breaking it down in such simple terms!

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Josef Tearle

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Welcome to the "holy crap, where did my paycheck go?" club! I remember that exact feeling when I started my first job out of college. Seeing 33% vanish felt like highway robbery, but you're definitely not alone in this. Here's what helped me figure it out: I actually kept a simple spreadsheet tracking my gross pay, total withholdings, and the breakdown between federal/state/FICA for a few months. It helped me understand my actual tax burden versus what was being withheld. For someone in your situation (single, no dependents, one job), the new W-4 form makes this much simpler than the old allowance system. Just fill out your basic info, check "Single" for filing status, and sign it. That should bring your federal withholding down to a much more reasonable level. One more tip: if you're worried about making a mistake, you can always submit a new W-4 partway through the year if your first adjustment doesn't feel right. HR departments are used to people tweaking their withholdings, especially new grads who are figuring this stuff out for the first time. Don't stress too much about getting it perfect immediately!

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Amara Nwosu

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This thread has been so helpful! I'm also a recent grad dealing with this same shock. One thing I'm curious about - when you submit the new W-4 to HR, how long does it typically take for the changes to show up in your paycheck? I'm eager to see more money in my next check but don't want to get my hopes up if it takes a while to process. Also, has anyone here ever had to explain to their parents why they're changing their withholding? Mine keep telling me to "just claim 0 to be safe" but after reading all this, I think they might be giving outdated advice from when they were working.

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