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I'm confused why everyone's saying 7 years. My accountant put our portable toilets under 5-year property when we bought them for our construction company last year. Did we do something wrong???
Your accountant might have classified them as 5-year property if they're being used primarily in construction activities. Assets used in construction can sometimes qualify for 5-year treatment under asset class 15.0 for "Construction." It depends on your specific business use. If you're primarily renting them to others, they're typically 7-year property. But if they're used as part of your construction business operations, 5-year might be correct. I'd double-check with your accountant about their reasoning, but it could be completely legitimate based on your specific situation.
Great question! I went through this exact same situation when I started my outdoor event business. After consulting with my CPA and doing some research, I can confirm that porta potties are indeed 7-year property under MACRS asset class 00.28. A few key points that helped me: - They're considered tangible personal property, not real property, since they're mobile - You can absolutely use Section 179 expensing if you want to deduct the full cost in year one (subject to income limitations) - If you purchase them late in the year, you might also qualify for bonus depreciation One tip: make sure to keep good records of the business use percentage if you ever use them for personal events. The IRS likes to see clear documentation that they're primarily for business purposes. Also, don't forget to factor in any delivery/setup costs - those can usually be added to the basis of the equipment rather than expensed separately.
This is really helpful - thank you for the comprehensive breakdown! I'm curious about the delivery/setup costs you mentioned. When you say they can be added to the basis, does that include things like installation fees for electrical hookups or plumbing connections at event sites? Or are you referring more to the initial delivery when you first purchase the units? I want to make sure I'm capitalizing the right expenses versus treating them as ongoing operational costs.
Great question about the delivery/setup costs! You want to distinguish between costs that are part of getting the asset "ready for use" versus ongoing operational expenses. For the initial purchase, delivery and any setup costs to get the units operational (like initial electrical connections, testing, etc.) should be capitalized and added to the basis of the equipment. These are considered part of the cost to acquire and prepare the asset for business use. However, the ongoing delivery/pickup costs for each event rental would typically be treated as operational expenses since those are recurring costs associated with using the equipment in your business operations, not preparing it for initial use. The key test is: "Is this cost necessary to get the asset ready for its intended business use?" If yes, capitalize it. If it's a cost you'll incur repeatedly during normal operations, expense it.
Probably unpopular opinion but... just take the money and pay the taxes? All these complicated schemes to save on taxes often end up costing more in professional fees and stress than they save. Plus some can put you in audit territory. My brother won about $200k and just paid the taxes. Simple. No stress. No worrying about IRS problems. And honestly, you still have hundreds of thousands left after taxes. Not worth the headache trying to squeeze out every last dollar imo.
Congratulations on your win! As someone who works in tax preparation, I'd strongly recommend getting professional help given the size of this windfall. One important consideration nobody's mentioned yet - timing your claim strategically. If you're close to year-end, you might want to think about whether to claim in 2025 vs early 2026, depending on your other income and potential tax law changes. Also, make sure you understand California's specific lottery tax rules. CA doesn't tax lottery winnings at the state level the same way as regular income - there are some nuances that could affect your planning. The charitable contribution strategy mentioned earlier is solid, but remember the 60% AGI limitation means you can't offset the entire win in one year through donations alone. You might need to spread charitable giving across multiple years to maximize the tax benefit. Whatever you decide, don't rush into anything. The lottery commission usually gives you several months to claim, so use that time to get proper advice and make informed decisions. This is definitely a situation where spending a few thousand on quality professional guidance could save you tens of thousands in taxes.
This is incredibly helpful advice, thank you! I had no idea about the timing strategy for claiming - that's something I definitely need to research more. Could you clarify what you mean about California's lottery tax rules being different? I thought all income was taxed the same way at the state level. Also, do you know if there are any specific documentation requirements I should be aware of when working with a tax professional on lottery winnings? I want to make sure I have everything organized properly from the start.
Don't forget that property tax rules can vary by state! In some places, property taxes are paid partly in advance rather than fully in arrears. And some counties have weird fiscal years that don't align with calendar years. Might be worth a quick call to your county tax assessor's office to confirm exactly how your local system works before making any decisions.
Great question! I went through the exact same confusion when I bought my first home. The key thing to remember is that for individual taxpayers, property tax deductions follow the "cash basis" rule - you can only deduct what you actually paid out of pocket to the tax authority in that tax year. Since your escrow account didn't make any property tax payments in 2023, you won't have a property tax deduction for your 2023 return. The credit you received at closing from the seller is considered a purchase price adjustment, not a tax payment by you. When you pay the 2023 property taxes in January 2024 (even though they're for the previous year), that's when you'll get the deduction - on your 2024 tax return that you'll file in 2025. Make sure to keep your closing statement and all escrow records organized, as you'll need them for future reference and when you eventually sell the home.
This is really helpful! I'm also a first-time homeowner and was wondering about this exact situation. One thing I'm curious about - when you say to keep the escrow records organized, should I be requesting specific documentation from my mortgage servicer? I want to make sure I have everything I need when I file my 2024 taxes next year.
Has anyone had their employer's matching funds audited? My company matches 2-to-1 on Giving Tuesday too, but I've always wondered if I should be including the company match in my charitable deduction or just my original donation amount.
You should ONLY claim your personal contribution amount, not the employer match! The matching amount is a donation from your employer, not from you. If you claim the matched amount, you could definitely get flagged in an audit.
I went through this exact same situation last year with my Giving Tuesday donations! The key thing to remember is that you claim charitable deductions based on when YOU made the donation, not when the charity received the funds or issued the receipt. Since you made your donations on December 3rd through Benevity, those donations belong on your 2024 tax return, even though the charity didn't receive the money until January 2025. The IRS considers the donation "complete" when you authorize the payment through the platform. I'd recommend keeping records of both your Benevity confirmation (showing the December date) and the charity receipt (showing the January date) in case you ever need to explain the timing discrepancy. The Benevity platform should have given you a confirmation or receipt showing the December 3rd date - that's your primary documentation for tax purposes. You've been handling this correctly all along by claiming donations based on when you made them rather than when the organizations received them!
This is really helpful confirmation! I was getting worried I'd been doing it wrong all these years. Do you know if there's any specific IRS publication that spells out this rule about donation timing? I like to keep copies of the actual IRS guidance with my tax documents in case I ever need to reference it during an audit or something.
Kara Yoshida
Make sure you're keeping track of the adjusted basis for any replacement shares! The wash sale rule disallows the loss, but that loss doesn't disappear forever - it gets added to the basis of your replacement shares. This matters for when you eventually sell those replacement shares.
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Philip Cowan
ā¢This is such an important point that's often missed! I once had a situation where I had wash sales across tax years, and I had to make sure I tracked the adjusted basis into the next year. Does being a non-resident change anything about how this carry-over basis works?
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Kara Yoshida
ā¢You're right to ask about the cross-year implications for non-residents! The basis adjustment works the same way regardless of residency status, but there's an extra wrinkle for non-residents. If you have wash sales that create adjusted basis in replacement shares, you need to carefully track that adjusted basis even if your residency status changes in the future. The IRS systems don't always effectively track basis information across different taxpayer statuses, so keeping your own detailed records is essential. This is especially true if you might change from non-resident to resident status (or vice versa) in a future year.
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Cedric Chung
I'm dealing with a similar wash sale situation as a non-resident, and this thread has been incredibly helpful! One thing I wanted to add based on my experience is that you should double-check your 1099-B carefully because some brokerages don't always correctly identify ALL wash sales, especially if you have accounts at multiple brokerages. I discovered that I had wash sales that weren't marked on my 1099-B because I sold shares at one brokerage and bought similar shares at another brokerage within the 30-day window. The wash sale rule still applies in this situation, but the brokerages don't communicate with each other to identify these cross-brokerage wash sales. So even if your 1099-B shows some wash sales, make sure to review all your transactions across all accounts to catch any that might have been missed. You'll still need to report these on Form 8949 with code "W" even if they weren't identified by your brokerage.
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Fatima Al-Maktoum
ā¢This is such a crucial point that many people miss! I had no idea that wash sales could occur across different brokerages. That's really scary because you could unknowingly violate the wash sale rules and then file incorrectly. How did you even figure out that you had cross-brokerage wash sales? Do you just have to manually compare all your buy and sell transactions across every account you have? That sounds like it could be a nightmare if you're an active trader with multiple accounts.
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