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Drake

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Great question about tax gain harvesting! I did this exact strategy last year when my income was low. Just want to emphasize a few key points that have been mentioned: 1. You can indeed buy back immediately - there's no waiting period for gains like there is for losses (wash sale rule) 2. The gain is locked in the moment you sell, regardless of when you repurchase 3. Make sure you're only doing this with long-term holdings (over 1 year) to qualify for the 0% capital gains rate One thing I'd add is to be strategic about which specific lots you're selling if you have multiple purchases of the same stock. You can use "specific identification" to choose exactly which shares to sell to maximize your tax benefit. Also, don't forget to factor in any transaction fees - while the tax savings are great, make sure the brokerage fees don't eat into your benefits too much. Good luck with your harvesting strategy! It's a smart move to take advantage of your low income year.

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FireflyDreams

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Thanks for the additional tips! The specific identification strategy is something I hadn't thought about. If I have multiple purchases of the same stock at different prices, can I choose to sell just the lots with the highest gains to maximize my tax harvesting? Or would that create any complications? Also, regarding transaction fees - most brokerages have eliminated commission fees for stock trades now, but are there any other hidden costs I should watch out for when doing this strategy?

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CosmosCaptain

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Yes, you can absolutely use specific identification to sell the lots with the highest gains! This is actually one of the most powerful aspects of tax gain harvesting. You just need to specify to your broker which exact shares you're selling (usually by purchase date and price) before executing the trade. Most online brokers have tools that let you select specific lots when placing sell orders. This won't create any complications - it's a completely legitimate tax strategy. Just make sure to keep good records of which lots you sold in case the IRS ever asks for documentation. You're right that most major brokers have eliminated stock trading commissions, but there are still a few potential costs to watch for: - Some brokers still charge fees for penny stocks or over-the-counter trades - Foreign transaction fees if you're trading international stocks - Bid-ask spreads (not technically a fee, but can impact your net proceeds) For most standard stock and ETF trades at major brokers like Fidelity, Schwab, or Vanguard, you shouldn't have any fees that would meaningfully impact your harvesting strategy. The tax savings will far outweigh any minor spread costs.

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One additional consideration that might be helpful - if you're planning to do this regularly (not just this year), you might want to keep a spreadsheet tracking your cost basis adjustments. Each time you sell and rebuy, you're establishing a new cost basis for those shares, which will affect future tax calculations. For example, if you bought Stock XYZ at $50, it's now worth $80, and you sell and rebuy at $80, your new cost basis becomes $80. This "steps up" your basis and could reduce future capital gains when you eventually sell for good. Also, since you mentioned your income is around $22,000, you're well within the 0% bracket (which goes up to $44,625 for single filers in 2024), so you have plenty of room to harvest gains. Just make sure to account for any other income sources you might have throughout the year that could push you over that threshold. The strategy you're considering is really smart - taking advantage of low income years to realize gains tax-free is one of the best tax optimization moves you can make!

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Malik Johnson

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This is really helpful advice about tracking cost basis! I hadn't thought about how the "step up" in basis could benefit me in future years. So essentially, by doing this tax gain harvesting now, I'm not only getting the 0% tax treatment this year, but I'm also resetting my cost basis higher for future sales - that's like a double benefit! Quick question about the income threshold - when you mention the $44,625 limit for single filers, does that include the capital gains themselves? So if I have $22,000 in regular income and harvest $20,000 in capital gains, would my total be $42,000 and still qualify for the 0% rate? Or do capital gains get calculated separately? Also, do you have any recommendations for simple spreadsheet templates to track these basis adjustments? I want to make sure I'm documenting everything properly for future reference.

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Sofia Martinez

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There's a fundamental misunderstanding about refunds I need to clarify. A refund is primarily a return of YOUR money that was over-withheld, not a gift from the government (with some exceptions like refundable credits). With multiple short-term employers, each employer calculates withholding as if that's your only job for the full year, which often results in NO withholding for very short-term positions due to annualization calculations in the withholding tables. If your total income is below $13,850 (2023 standard deduction), you'll have zero tax liability, so any withholding would be refunded. But if nothing was withheld, there's nothing to refund unless you qualify for refundable credits like EITC.

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Sarah Ali

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I went through something similar a couple years ago! Worked at a restaurant for 3 weeks, a retail store for 2 weeks, and did some temp office work for about a month. Here's what I learned: The good news is that with such limited income, you're almost certainly under the standard deduction, so you won't owe any federal taxes. The tricky part is figuring out how much (if anything) was actually withheld from those short paychecks. In my case, two of the three jobs barely withheld anything because the payroll systems assumed I'd be working there all year at that rate. But one job did withhold federal taxes, so I got that back plus qualified for a small EITC. My advice: gather all your W-2s first, then use the IRS withholding calculator or a tax software to get a realistic estimate. Don't stress too much - worst case scenario you break even, best case you get a nice little refund!

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For anyone else confused about stock options, here's what I learned after dealing with this last year: you don't report anything when options are granted (unvested) or when they vest. The tax stuff only happens when you exercise them (buy the shares). NSOs get reported on your W2 at exercise. ISOs don't get reported on your W2 at exercise, but might trigger AMT. Then when you sell the shares, that's another taxable event reported on your 1099-B from your broker. The whole system is needlessly complex!

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Just to add a bit of nuance here - with ISOs, if you exercise and then hold the shares for at least 1 year from exercise AND 2 years from the grant date, you get long-term capital gains treatment on the entire gain (from original grant price to final sale price). That can be a huge tax advantage compared to NSOs!

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CosmicCruiser

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This is such a helpful thread! I'm in a similar situation with stock options at my startup, and I've been worried about missing something important. One thing I'd add from my research is that it's worth keeping detailed records of all your option activities from day one - grant dates, vesting schedules, exercise prices, fair market values at exercise, etc. Even though you don't report anything initially, having organized records will save you huge headaches later when you do exercise and sell. I created a simple spreadsheet tracking everything, and my tax preparer was so grateful to have all the info organized. The IRS requires you to calculate your basis correctly when you eventually sell the shares, and missing documentation can be a nightmare to reconstruct years later!

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This is excellent advice! I wish I had started keeping detailed records from the beginning. I'm about 6 months into my job and just realized I should be tracking all this information. Do you have any recommendations for what specific data points to include in the spreadsheet? I want to make sure I'm capturing everything I'll need later for tax purposes. Also, did you find any particular format or template that worked well for organizing all the option details?

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I went through this exact situation last year and learned a few hard lessons that might help you avoid my mistakes. First, when you amend your return, make sure you also calculate and pay any penalties for late payment since the IRS considers fellowship income as earned throughout the year, not just when you file. For entering it in TurboTax, go to Federal > Income & Expenses > Less Common Income > Other Reportable Income. Look for "Other Income Types" and select "Other Income Not Already Reported." Enter your fellowship stipend amount and put "Fellowship" in the description field. One thing nobody mentioned yet - if your fellowship is over $600 and you didn't receive a 1099, you technically should file Form 1099-MISC for yourself (weird, I know). Not everyone does this, but it's technically required. Also, don't forget that you'll owe self-employment tax on the fellowship income since it's not subject to payroll taxes. The quarterly estimated payments you're planning are smart, but calculate them based on your total expected tax liability, not just the fellowship portion. Use Form 1040-ES and remember the safe harbor rule - if you pay 100% of last year's tax liability through quarterlies, you won't owe penalties even if you end up owing more.

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PixelPrincess

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Wait, are you sure about the self-employment tax on fellowship income? I thought fellowships were specifically exempt from self-employment tax since there's no employer-employee relationship. That's one of the key differences between fellowship stipends and regular wages - they're subject to income tax but not FICA/self-employment taxes. Also, I don't think you need to file a 1099-MISC for yourself - that doesn't sound right. Could you clarify where you got that information? I want to make sure I'm not missing something important for my own situation.

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@PixelPrincess is absolutely correct - fellowship stipends are NOT subject to self-employment tax. That's a major distinction between fellowships and other types of income. Fellowship income is subject to regular income tax but specifically exempt from FICA and self-employment taxes because there's no service requirement or employer-employee relationship. Also, you definitely don't need to file a 1099-MISC for yourself - that's not how the tax system works. The 1099-MISC is issued by payers to recipients, not by recipients to themselves. Since universities aren't required to issue tax forms for fellowships under $600 (and many don't even for larger amounts), you simply report the income directly on your return. @Giovanni, I think you might be confusing fellowship income with independent contractor income, which would be subject to self-employment tax. The key difference is that fellowships are for educational purposes without a service requirement, while contractor work involves providing services in exchange for payment. For the original poster, this is good news - you only owe regular income tax on your fellowship, not the additional 15.3% self-employment tax!

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Arnav Bengali

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I went through this exact same situation during my first year of grad school! You're definitely not alone in being confused - fellowship income is one of those weird tax situations that most software and support staff don't handle well. For TurboTax specifically, here's what worked for me: Go to Federal > Income & Expenses > Less Common Income, then look for "Other Income" or "Miscellaneous Income." There should be an option for scholarship/fellowship income that wasn't reported on a tax form. Enter just the stipend portion (living expenses) as taxable income - not the tuition or fees that went directly to the school. One tip that saved me a lot of headache: contact your graduate school's financial aid office and ask for a "fellowship tax allocation letter." They can break down exactly what portion went to qualified education expenses (tuition, fees, required books) versus your taxable stipend. Most schools can provide this even if they don't automatically issue tax forms. Also, you're absolutely right to plan quarterly payments for 2024! Fellowship recipients are technically considered self-employed for estimated tax purposes, so you'll want to use Form 1040-ES to calculate those payments. It's much easier than dealing with amendments later. The good news is that fellowship stipends are only subject to regular income tax, not self-employment tax, so at least you don't have to worry about that additional 15.3%!

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Yara Elias

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This is really helpful! I'm a first-year PhD student dealing with the same fellowship tax confusion. Quick question about the "fellowship tax allocation letter" - when you requested this from your financial aid office, did they understand what you were asking for right away, or did you have to explain what you needed it for? I'm worried they'll look at me like I'm speaking a foreign language when I call tomorrow. Also, did the letter they provided work smoothly with TurboTax's fellowship income section, or did you still have to do some manual adjustments to get everything entered correctly?

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Emma Thompson

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Varo is usually good. Mine came early. Check your account details. Make sure they're correct. IRS doesn't make mistakes often. But it happens. Give it until end of day tomorrow. Then worry. Most people get their money on time.

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Chloe Martin

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@Emma Thompson is right about checking your account details! I had a nightmare situation last year where I accidentally transposed two digits in my routing number and my refund got sent to some random account. Had to wait months for the IRS to reissue it. Also, make sure your name on the tax return matches exactly what s'on your Varo account - even middle initials matter sometimes.

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Connor Byrne

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I'm in the exact same boat! DDD 3/18 with Varo and still nothing as of this morning. Last year my refund hit 2 days early around 6 AM, so I was expecting it yesterday or today. I've been checking the app obsessively too! πŸ˜… From what I've read, Varo's early deposit timing can be inconsistent - sometimes it depends on when the IRS sends the ACH files to the banks. I'm trying not to panic yet since we still have until tomorrow, but the waiting is definitely nerve-wracking when you're counting on that money!

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Tate Jensen

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Same here! DDD 3/18 with Varo and still waiting as of noon today. This is my first year filing taxes in the US so I wasn't sure what to expect, but all the stories about early deposits had me hopeful. I keep refreshing the app between work meetings! 😬 At least knowing others are in the same situation makes me feel less alone in this waiting game. Fingers crossed we both see our deposits soon!

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