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GalaxyGlider

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Don't forget about the Net Investment Income Tax (NIIT) of 3.8% that kicks in for higher incomes. So some people actually pay 23.8% not just 20% on their capital gains!

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Great point! The NIIT threshold is different too - for married filing jointly it's $250k in 2025. So many people who think they're just in the 15% capital gains bracket might actually be paying 18.8% (15% + 3.8%) when all is said and done.

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GalaxyGlider

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Exactly. I wish more people understood this. And state taxes can add another big chunk depending where you live. In California, you could end up paying close to 37% total tax on capital gains when you combine federal capital gains tax (20%), NIIT (3.8%), and state income tax (13.3% top rate). Makes a huge difference in your final numbers.

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This is such a helpful thread! I'm dealing with a similar situation where I'm planning to sell some rental properties next year. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the depreciation recapture rules - if you've been claiming depreciation on rental property, you'll owe tax at 25% on the depreciation amount you claimed, even if the rest of your gain qualifies for the lower capital gains rates. Also, for anyone considering the charitable donation strategy mentioned earlier, don't forget about donor-advised funds. You can make a large charitable contribution in one year to lower your AGI for capital gains purposes, but then distribute the funds to actual charities over several years. It gives you more flexibility while still getting the immediate tax benefit. The timing advice from Emma is spot-on too. I've been working with my CPA to spread out my property sales over 2-3 years to stay in lower tax brackets rather than selling everything at once and getting hit with the highest rates.

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This is exactly the kind of comprehensive planning I need to learn more about! The depreciation recapture at 25% is something I hadn't even considered - that could really add up over years of claimed depreciation. The donor-advised fund strategy sounds brilliant for larger gains. Do you know if there are minimum amounts required to set one up, or can smaller investors use this approach too? I'm wondering if it would make sense for someone with maybe $200k in gains rather than millions. Also curious about your multi-year sale strategy - are you worried about property values changing between now and when you sell the later properties? Seems like there's always a balance between tax optimization and market timing risk.

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Connor Murphy

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Great questions! For donor-advised funds, most major providers like Fidelity, Schwab, and Vanguard have minimums around $5,000-$25,000, so they're definitely accessible for someone with $200k in gains. You could contribute $50k-$100k to lower your AGI and still have plenty left over after taxes. Regarding the multi-year strategy, you're absolutely right about the market timing risk. I'm actually using 1031 exchanges for some properties to defer the gains entirely while moving into different markets I like better. For the ones I'm selling outright, I figure the tax savings from staying in lower brackets are substantial enough (we're talking 5-15% difference in tax rates) that even if property values drop 10-15%, I still come out ahead compared to selling everything at once and paying top rates. Plus, spreading sales over multiple years gives you more flexibility to optimize based on your income in each year. Maybe 2026 is a lower income year due to a job change, sabbatical, or other life circumstances - then you can accelerate more sales that year to take advantage of the lower brackets.

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Benjamin Kim

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My company offers $150/month for transit and they don't withhold taxes either. My accountant said as long as it's under the IRS limit and used for qualified transportation, I'm good. The 2025 limit is like $300 I think?

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Do you know if Uber/Lyft specifically count as "qualified transportation"? My employer gives us a similar benefit but tells us we need to pay taxes on it ourselves.

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The IRS rules around rideshare services like Uber/Lyft for qualified transportation benefits can be tricky. Generally, they don't automatically qualify the same way transit passes or vanpools do. Your employer might be correct about the tax treatment - it really depends on how they've structured the benefit and whether it meets specific IRS requirements for qualified transportation fringe benefits. I'd recommend checking with your HR department about exactly how they're coding this benefit, or maybe try one of those tax analysis tools others mentioned to get clarity on your specific situation.

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Darcy Moore

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I've been dealing with a similar situation at my company and wanted to share what I learned after doing some research. The tax treatment really depends on HOW your employer is providing these rideshare reimbursements. If they're treating it as a "commuter benefit" under IRS Section 132(f), then up to $300/month (for 2025) can be tax-free. However, many employers mistakenly think all rideshare reimbursements automatically qualify, but the IRS has specific rules about what counts as "qualified transportation." For rideshares to qualify as tax-free, they generally need to be part of a formal commuter benefit program and used for specific purposes like getting to/from transit stations or for carpooling arrangements. Just regular Uber/Lyft rides from home to work usually don't qualify unless there are special circumstances. Since you mentioned it's showing up on your paystub without taxes withheld, I'd double-check with your HR department about how they're coding this benefit. You might also want to keep records of exactly what these rides are for, just in case you need to justify the tax treatment later.

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This is really helpful clarification! I'm actually in a similar boat and have been wondering about the specific requirements. You mentioned that rideshares need to be "part of a formal commuter benefit program" - does anyone know what makes a program "formal" in the IRS's eyes? My company just started offering this benefit and I'm not sure if they've set it up correctly. They basically just said "submit your Uber receipts for reimbursement up to $50/month" but there wasn't any paperwork or formal enrollment process. Should I be concerned that this might not actually qualify for tax-free treatment? Also, when you say "special circumstances" - what kinds of situations would make regular home-to-work rideshares qualify? I'm trying to figure out if my specific commute situation might have any exceptions.

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Emma Taylor

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Just a suggestion - if you're concerned but like your accountant otherwise, maybe suggest an alternative? Ask if you can come to their office and show the cards in person instead of providing copies. A legitimate accountant shouldn't have a problem with this option.

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This is definitely not normal and I'd be very cautious about this request. As others have mentioned, legitimate tax preparers don't need to keep copies of Social Security cards on file - they only need the numbers for filing purposes. Since you've been working with this accountant for 3 years, I'd recommend having a direct conversation about what specifically changed in their process to suddenly require this documentation. A few questions to ask: 1. What specific security concern prompted this new requirement? 2. Why do they need physical copies when they already have your SSNs on file? 3. How will these copies be stored and protected? 4. Would they accept in-person verification instead of copies? If they can't provide clear, satisfactory answers to these questions, that's a major red flag. The fact that this is a sudden change after years of working together is particularly concerning. Trust your instincts here - if something feels off, it probably is. You might also want to check if your state has specific regulations about tax preparer document retention requirements. Many states actually prohibit keeping unnecessary copies of sensitive documents like Social Security cards.

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This is excellent advice! I especially like the suggestion about checking state regulations - I hadn't thought of that. One thing to add: if your accountant can't give you clear answers to these questions, you might want to report the suspicious request to your state's board of accountancy. They often have guidelines about proper document handling that licensed preparers must follow. Also, even if they do provide explanations, I'd still be hesitant to send copies via email or regular mail. If there truly is a legitimate need (which seems unlikely based on what everyone's saying), insist on secure transmission methods or in-person verification only.

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You might want to look into whether you qualify as an independent contractor rather than an employee. Many PCAs are actually misclassified. If you're actually an independent contractor, you'd handle your own taxes through quarterly estimated payments anyway, and this might simplify things for you going forward. The IRS has a form called SS-8 that helps determine proper worker classification. Worth looking into since your intermediary is already failing at basic employer responsibilities!

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This is terrible advice! PCAs paid through state programs and fiscal intermediaries are almost always W-2 employees by law, not independent contractors. Filing an SS-8 could create huge problems with their employment status and benefits. The issue here is getting proper withholding, not changing classification.

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Joy Olmedo

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I'm dealing with a similar situation right now and wanted to share what I've learned from calling the IRS directly. When your employer fails to withhold taxes despite proper W-4 submission, you can actually request what's called a "lock-in letter" from the IRS. This is a formal notice that the IRS sends to your employer specifying exactly how much must be withheld from your paychecks. To get this, call the IRS at 1-800-829-1040 and ask for the "employee protection" department. You'll need to provide documentation that you submitted proper W-4 forms and that your employer ignored them. The IRS takes this pretty seriously since employers are legally required to follow valid withholding instructions. Also, since you're working through DSS as a PCA, you might have additional protections under your state's labor laws. Many states have specific regulations about how fiscal intermediaries must handle payroll for state-funded positions. I'd recommend contacting your state's Department of Labor wage and hour division - they often have more teeth than just complaining to DSS directly. Keep fighting this! You shouldn't have to bear the burden of your employer's failure to follow basic tax laws.

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Brian Downey

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This is really helpful information! I had no idea about the "lock-in letter" option. How long does it typically take for the IRS to process this request and send the letter to your employer? And do you know if there are any downsides to going this route - like could it affect my relationship with my employer or the fiscal intermediary?

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Nia Wilson

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Have you considered what the 846 code actually means in this process? It's simply the IRS saying "we've approved your refund and scheduled it." The money doesn't instantly move at that moment. What typically happens is the Treasury sends these in batches to the ACH network, which then distributes to financial institutions. Cash App's advantage is they don't wait for final settlement before showing the money in your account. I filed on January 15th and had an 846 date of February 3rd. The money appeared in my Cash App on February 1st around 2pm. But would I make financial plans assuming this will happen? Probably not. Is an extra day or two worth risking an important investment decision? That's the real question you should be asking.

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Based on my experience with Cash App over the past few years, they do tend to release tax refunds early - usually 1-2 days before the 846 date. However, since you're making a time-sensitive investment decision, I'd strongly recommend having a backup plan. The timing isn't 100% guaranteed, and the difference between getting your money on 2/24 versus 2/26 could impact your investment window. Have you considered reaching out to Cash App support directly to ask about their typical processing time for tax refunds? They might be able to give you a more definitive answer about when to expect the deposit. Also, just curious - what type of investment has such a tight deadline? Sometimes there are ways to structure deals with contingencies if funding timing is uncertain.

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Emma Davis

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Great advice about having a backup plan! I'm curious about this too - what kind of investment opportunity has such a strict end-of-month deadline? Is it something like a Roth IRA contribution for the tax year, or maybe a time-sensitive stock offering? Understanding the nature of the deadline might help us suggest alternative approaches. For example, if it's a retirement account contribution, some brokers allow you to initiate the transaction with a pending deposit and complete it once funds clear.

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