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Just went through this nightmare myself! Filed Form 8822 back in November when I moved and STILL had issues with my refund going to the old address in January šŸ¤¦ā€ā™€ļø The IRS systems don't talk to each other apparently. Had to call that hotline like 5 times before someone finally noted my case and reissued the check. Definitely file the form ASAP but also call them directly - sometimes the form takes weeks to process and your refund could get sent out before they update your address in their system. So frustrating but you'll get through it! The reissued check only took about 3 weeks once they actually processed my address change.

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@Hiroshi Nakamura Wow that s'so frustrating that even filing the form in advance didn t'prevent the issue! 😤 Thanks for the heads up about calling them directly too - sounds like the phone route might be faster than waiting for the paperwork to go through their system. Did you have to provide any specific info when you called to get them to actually note your case? I m'definitely going to try both approaches now after reading everyone s'experiences here!

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This is such a common issue and it's so stressful when you're already waiting months! 😫 Everyone's advice here is spot on - definitely file Form 8822 immediately and call the IRS hotline. I went through something similar when I moved during tax season last year. What really helped me was doing BOTH the form AND calling on the same day, then following up with another call about a week later to make sure they actually processed the address change in their system. The representatives can see if your address update went through and flag your refund case specifically. Also keep records of when you filed the form and any confirmation numbers from your calls - you might need them later. The whole process sucks but you'll get your money eventually! Hang in there! šŸ’Ŗ

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Mateo Perez

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Great question! I went through this exact situation two years ago when I got married. My husband had about $8,000 in capital loss carryover from some tech stock disasters, and I had RSU gains from my company totaling around $6,500. The good news is that when you file jointly, the IRS treats you as one tax entity, so his pre-marriage losses can absolutely offset your capital gains. We were able to eliminate all of my RSU tax liability and still had $1,500 in losses left over to deduct against our regular income. One thing I'd recommend - make sure you have clear documentation of your capital loss carryover amounts from your previous single filing years. The IRS may ask for backup if they have questions. Also, consider whether filing jointly vs. separately gives you the better overall tax outcome, though in most cases with this type of situation, joint filing comes out ahead. Our CPA estimated we saved about $1,400 in taxes by being able to combine our capital gains and losses this way. Definitely worth looking into!

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This is exactly the kind of real-world example I was hoping to see! The $1,400 in tax savings you mentioned really puts this into perspective. I'm curious - did you and your husband run into any complications when your CPA was preparing the joint return? Like did they need any special forms or documentation beyond the regular Schedule D from his previous returns? I want to make sure I have everything organized properly when we meet with our tax preparer.

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Emily Jackson

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@Mateo Perez That's a great question about the documentation! When we worked with our CPA, the main things they needed were: 1) Copies of my husband's previous tax returns showing the capital loss carryover (specifically the Schedule D forms), 2) All the RSU documentation from my employer (1099-B forms), and 3) Records of when the RSUs vested vs when they were sold to determine short-term vs long-term treatment. The CPA said the most important thing was having the prior year Schedule D that clearly showed the loss carryover amount on line 6. Without that, it's much harder to prove the legitimate carryover amount. We didn't need any special forms beyond the standard Schedule D and 8949 for the joint return. The process was actually pretty straightforward once we had all the paperwork organized. Good luck with your situation!

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CosmicVoyager

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This is such a timely question for me! I'm dealing with the exact same situation - I have about $25k in capital loss carryover from some really poor investment decisions I made as a single person (mostly from chasing volatile penny stocks that went to zero). My wife just started a new job at a tech company and will be receiving RSUs that will generate significant capital gains when she sells them. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful in confirming that we can combine my pre-marriage losses with her gains on our joint return. The real-world examples showing tax savings of $1,400-$2,800 really demonstrate how valuable this strategy can be. One thing I'm wondering about that I haven't seen mentioned - does anyone know if there are any limitations on how much loss carryover you can apply in a single tax year when filing jointly? Or can you use as much as needed to offset all available gains? With $25k in losses, I want to make sure I can use them as efficiently as possible against her RSU gains.

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Quick tip: keep track of time spent developing too! Hours worked can help justify your business status to the IRS if they ever question whether your game dev is a hobby or a business. Hobbies have way fewer tax advantages than businesses.

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StarSurfer

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Does anyone use any particular app to track development hours? I've been trying to find something that works well for game development specifically.

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Yuki Sato

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As someone who went through this exact situation two years ago, I want to emphasize something really important that might help reduce your stress: you're actually in a BETTER position by waiting until you turn 18 to cash out! Since you haven't converted your Robux to USD yet, you have more control over the timing and can plan better for taxes. I made the mistake of cashing out sporadically throughout the year without setting money aside, and it was a nightmare come tax season. Here's what I wish I'd known: Consider cashing out in smaller chunks rather than all at once, especially if $38k would push you into a higher tax bracket. You can also time it strategically - like cashing out some in December and some in January to split the income across two tax years. Also, start tracking your business expenses NOW before you cash out. Things like your computer setup, internet costs (business portion), any software subscriptions, even courses or books about game development - these can all be legitimate deductions that will reduce your taxable income significantly. The self-employment tax is the killer (15.3% on top of regular income tax), but proper expense tracking can really help offset that burden. You've got this!

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This is such helpful advice! I'm actually in a similar situation but with a smaller amount (~$15k in Robux). The strategic timing idea is really smart - I hadn't thought about splitting across tax years. Quick question though - when you mention tracking business expenses "NOW," does that mean I can deduct expenses I incurred before actually cashing out? Like if I bought a new graphics card last month specifically for game development, can I still claim that even though I haven't converted any Robux to USD yet? Also, do you know if there's a minimum threshold where the IRS starts caring about hobby vs business classification? I'm trying to figure out if my smaller income level changes anything about how I should approach this.

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Zainab Ali

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I'm a new member here and this thread has been absolutely incredible for my peace of mind! I'm also dealing with a DDD of 5/22 and experiencing the exact same thing - absolutely nothing showing as pending in my Navy Federal account. This is my first year with them after switching from a local credit union, so I had no baseline for what to expect and was starting to think something went seriously wrong with my return. What makes this particularly stressful is that I'm relying on this refund to help cover moving expenses after relocating for a new job. The complete radio silence from Navy Fed's system had me convinced there was an error with my direct deposit routing information or that my return got flagged for review. Reading through everyone's experiences here has been such a huge relief - it's clear this is a widespread policy change affecting all members and not individual account issues. I especially appreciate those who called customer service to get clarification about the reasoning behind this change. While I understand they want to reduce confusion, the lack of any pending notification definitely creates more anxiety than it prevents! I'm definitely taking the advice about setting up account alerts and trying to stop the obsessive balance checking. Based on all the shared experiences from earlier in the tax season, it sounds like Thursday morning should bring good news for all of us with 5/22 DDDs. Thanks to this amazing community for providing both practical information and emotional support during what could otherwise be a really nerve-wracking waiting period!

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Welcome to the community! I'm also new here and completely understand your stress about the moving expenses - that's such a huge financial commitment when you're already dealing with job relocation stress. I've been reading through this entire thread since I'm in the exact same situation with a 5/22 DDD and nothing showing pending at Navy Fed. It's honestly been so reassuring to see how consistent everyone's experiences have been with this policy change. The fact that people earlier in the tax season all confirmed their deposits hit exactly on the DDD despite zero advance notice gives me a lot of confidence. I also switched to Navy Fed recently (from Chase) so I had no idea what their normal process looked like, which made the silence even more concerning. This thread has been such a lifesaver for understanding what's really happening behind the scenes. I've set up those account alerts based on the suggestions here and it's definitely helping me stay calmer. Thursday morning can't come soon enough, but at least now we know what to expect!

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I'm a new member here and this entire thread has been such a lifesaver! I'm also dealing with a DDD of 5/22 and experiencing the exact same issue with Navy Federal - absolutely nothing showing as pending. This is actually my first year filing taxes as an independent adult (just turned 18 and moved out), so I was completely panicking thinking I'd messed something up on my return. Reading through everyone's experiences has been incredibly reassuring. It's clear this is Navy Fed's new policy across the board and not individual account problems. I really appreciate all the members who took the time to call customer service and share what they learned - that context about why they made this change is so helpful even if I don't love their reasoning. What's particularly frustrating as a newcomer to both taxes and Navy Fed is having no baseline for what's "normal." The complete silence from their system had me convinced I'd entered wrong routing information or that my return got rejected somehow. But based on everyone's shared experiences from earlier this tax season, it sounds like Thursday morning should bring good news! I'm definitely setting up those account alerts that were mentioned and trying to stop refreshing my app every 30 minutes. Thanks to this community for providing both practical advice and emotional support - without finding this discussion, I would have probably called both the IRS and Navy Fed unnecessarily!

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Malia Ponder

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If u make under $12,950 in 2024, u might not even need to file a return at all if ur a dependent. But u should still file anyway to get any witholding back! And track all ur expenses, art supplies, software, part of ur internet bill, etc.

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Kyle Wallace

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This isn't completely accurate. Self-employed people need to file if they make $400 or more net income, even if they're dependents. The $12,950 threshold is for regular W-2 income, not self-employment income.

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Ana Rusula

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Great thread! As someone who went through this exact situation a few years ago, I wanted to add a few things that really helped me when I was starting out as a freelance digital artist. First, definitely set up a separate bank account for your business income and expenses if you haven't already. It makes tracking everything so much easier come tax time, and the IRS loves clean records if you ever get audited. Second, don't forget about state income tax requirements! Even though your state doesn't charge sales tax on digital goods, you'll still likely owe state income tax on your freelance earnings. Each state has different thresholds and rules. Also, since you're tracking everything in a spreadsheet already, consider categorizing your expenses more specifically - things like "software subscriptions," "equipment," "professional development," etc. This will make filling out Schedule C much smoother and help you spot deduction opportunities you might miss otherwise. One last tip: if you end up owing more than $1,000 in taxes when you file, you'll definitely want to start making those quarterly estimated payments for next year to avoid penalties. The IRS doesn't like waiting until April to get their money! You're being really smart about getting ahead of this. Most freelancers I know (myself included) learned this stuff the hard way after making mistakes.

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Sophie Duck

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This is such helpful advice! I'm actually just getting started with freelance work myself and had no idea about the separate bank account thing. That makes so much sense for keeping everything organized. Quick question - when you say "professional development" as a category, what kind of expenses would fall under that? Like online art courses or tutorials? And do those actually count as legitimate business deductions even if they're helping me improve skills I already use? Also really appreciate the heads up about the $1,000 threshold for quarterly payments. I was worried I'd have to start making estimated payments right away even with smaller amounts.

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Nia Wilson

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Yes, exactly! Online art courses, tutorials, workshops, even books about digital art techniques or business skills can all qualify as professional development expenses. The key is that they need to be related to maintaining or improving skills you use in your current business. Since you're already doing digital art professionally, courses that help you learn new techniques, software training, or even business/marketing courses for freelancers would typically qualify. You can also deduct things like conference fees if you attend art or freelancer events, membership fees for professional organizations, and even some networking events if they're business-related. The IRS generally allows these deductions as long as the education maintains or improves skills required in your business. Just keep good records showing what the course/material was about and how it relates to your work. Screenshots of course descriptions or receipts that clearly show the subject matter are really helpful. And you're right about the quarterly payments - if you owe less than $1,000 when you file, you can just pay it all at once in April without penalties. It's only when you get above that threshold that the IRS starts wanting you to pay as you go throughout the year.

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