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I'm so deeply sorry for your friend's loss. This is an unimaginably difficult situation, and it's wonderful that you're trying to help them navigate these practical matters during such a heartbreaking time. Everyone here has provided excellent guidance about the tax implications. I wanted to add one more resource that might be helpful - many states have specific grief counseling services for parents who have lost newborns, and some of these programs also provide guidance on handling the administrative aspects (paperwork, benefits, etc.) that come up after such a loss. The National Stillbirth Society and similar organizations often have state-specific resources that can help with both the emotional support and practical guidance your friends might need. Sometimes having an advocate who understands both the grief process and the bureaucratic requirements can be invaluable. Please let your friends know that there's no rush on any of this tax-related paperwork - they have until the tax filing deadline to sort through everything, so they should take the time they need to grieve and process before tackling these administrative tasks. The most important thing right now is their emotional healing.

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Thank you for mentioning those grief counseling resources. I hadn't thought about organizations like the National Stillbirth Society potentially offering practical guidance alongside emotional support. That's such a thoughtful suggestion - having advocates who understand both sides of what families are going through could be incredibly valuable. Your reminder about not rushing the paperwork is really important too. I think when people are grieving, sometimes having concrete tasks to focus on can feel helpful, but other times it can feel overwhelming. Knowing they have until the tax deadline gives them the flexibility to handle this when they're ready rather than feeling pressured to figure everything out immediately. I'll definitely pass along the information about seeking out these specialized support organizations. Even if my friends don't need the administrative guidance, the grief counseling resources could be really beneficial for them right now.

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I'm so sorry for your friend's tremendous loss. Having gone through infant loss myself, I know how overwhelming it can be to handle practical matters while grieving. The advice here about claiming their baby as a dependent is absolutely correct - there's no minimum time requirement. One thing I wanted to add that hasn't been mentioned yet: they should also check if their employer offers any bereavement benefits or if their health insurance covers any additional services related to infant loss, like grief counseling or support groups. Also, if they had a baby shower and received gifts, they don't need to worry about any tax implications from returning those items or donating them - that won't affect their tax situation at all. I know it might seem like a small detail, but when you're grieving, sometimes these little questions can feel overwhelming. Please let them know that this community is here for them, and there's no pressure to handle any of this paperwork until they feel ready. Their healing is the most important thing right now.

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Hannah Flores

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Thank you for bringing up the employer benefits angle - that's something I wouldn't have thought to mention but could be really important. Many people don't realize that bereavement policies might extend beyond just time off to include additional support services or resources. The point about baby shower gifts is so thoughtful too. When you're dealing with grief, even small logistical questions like that can feel overwhelming when you're already struggling to handle the bigger picture. Having someone confirm that returning or donating those items won't create any tax complications is one less thing for them to worry about. I really appreciate how this whole thread has covered not just the tax questions but also the emotional and practical support aspects. It's clear that so many people in this community have either been through similar experiences or just understand how to be helpful during such a difficult time. I'll make sure to share all of these resources and suggestions with my friend when she's ready for them.

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I went through a very similar situation about 6 months ago as a freelance marketing consultant with 1099 income. The process was definitely more involved than a traditional W-2 mortgage, but absolutely doable with your financial profile. A few things that really helped me: **Documentation is everything** - Beyond just tax returns, I prepared a business income summary showing quarterly earnings for the past 2-3 years to demonstrate consistency. This helped offset any concerns about income variability. **Consider your debt-to-income calculation carefully** - Since you mentioned taking business deductions, run the numbers on what your net income looks like for qualification purposes. Sometimes it makes sense to be less aggressive with deductions in the year you're applying for a mortgage. **Bank statement loans might be worth exploring** - As someone else mentioned, these can be great for self-employed folks. I didn't go this route since my tax return income was sufficient, but it's good to know it exists as an option. **Your combined profile is strong** - Having your wife's stable W-2 income plus your consistent contractor earnings, excellent credit scores, and solid down payment puts you in a really good position. Many lenders will view this as lower risk than a solo 1099 applicant. I ended up going with a regional bank that had experience with self-employed borrowers. The process took about 45 days total, but we got a great rate and closed without any last-minute surprises. Don't let the extra paperwork discourage you - it's totally manageable!

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This is really encouraging to hear from someone who just went through this process! I'm curious about the business income summary you mentioned - did you create this document yourself or did your accountant help prepare it? I'm wondering if there's a specific format that lenders prefer to see. Also, the point about being strategic with deductions is something I hadn't fully considered. It's kind of a catch-22 situation where you want to minimize taxes but also maximize qualifying income for the mortgage. Did you end up adjusting your deduction strategy in the year you applied, or did you work with what you already had filed? The 45-day timeline is really helpful to know too - I was worried it might drag on for months with all the extra documentation requirements. Thanks for sharing your experience!

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As someone who went through this exact process last year as a 1099 contractor, I wanted to share what worked for me. I had been doing freelance accounting work for about 2.5 years when my husband and I decided to buy our first home. The biggest challenge was indeed the income documentation. Lenders wanted to see not just my tax returns, but also profit & loss statements, bank statements showing consistent deposits, and letters from my main clients confirming ongoing work relationships. I learned that organization is absolutely critical - having everything ready upfront made a huge difference. One thing that really helped was working with a loan officer who specialized in self-employed borrowers. They knew exactly what documentation to request and how to present my income in the most favorable light to underwriters. They also suggested I get a CPA letter summarizing my business income trends, which seemed to carry weight with the underwriting team. Your situation sounds quite strong actually - having your wife's W-2 income as a foundation plus your consistent 1099 earnings should work in your favor. The key is finding the right lender and being prepared with thorough documentation. Don't get discouraged if you get a "no" from the first lender - shop around until you find one that understands self-employed borrowers. Feel free to ask if you want more specific details about the documentation process!

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This is exactly the kind of detailed guidance I was hoping to find! The point about getting a CPA letter summarizing business income trends is really valuable - I hadn't thought about that approach. It sounds like having that professional third-party validation could make a big difference with underwriters. I'm particularly interested in your mention of getting letters from main clients confirming ongoing work relationships. How detailed did those need to be? Did they need to specify contract terms, expected duration, or payment amounts? I have a few long-term clients that could probably provide something like this, but I want to make sure I'm asking for the right information. The specialization aspect makes a lot of sense too. I think I've been looking at this too broadly - sounds like I should specifically seek out loan officers who market themselves as working with self-employed borrowers rather than just going to any random bank. Thanks for offering to share more details - this community has been incredibly helpful for understanding what to expect!

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This is why startup equity compensation is such a minefield. I messed up my 83(b) filing too but in a different way - I filed it but forgot to include a copy with my tax return, which apparently also invalidates it. Anyone know if there's any possible relief or exception? I've heard rumors about a "reasonable cause" exception for late filings?

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Miguel Silva

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Unfortunately, the IRS is super strict about the 30-day window for 83(b) elections. From everything I've researched, there's no "reasonable cause" exception for missing the deadline. Rev. Proc. 2012-29 makes it pretty clear the deadline is non-negotiable. For your specific situation though (filing with IRS but forgetting to include with tax return), you might actually be ok! The critical part is getting it to the IRS within 30 days. Including a copy with your return is a requirement but there might be ways to correct that error since you did make the actual filing on time.

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StarSailor}

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Thanks for that info! That's a huge relief. I was able to get a stamped copy of my original filing so hopefully that's enough proof that I made the actual election on time. This stuff is unnecessarily complicated!

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I feel your pain on this one! Missing the 83(b) election is unfortunately more common than you'd think, especially at startups where HR doesn't always explain the importance clearly. Since your initial FMV was $0.00, you're actually in a relatively good position compared to others who miss this deadline. The main thing to understand is that now you'll be taxed on ordinary income as your shares vest based on their fair market value at each vesting date. My advice: start preparing financially now. Set up a separate savings account and begin putting money aside for the tax bills that will come with each vesting event. If your company has had any funding rounds or valuation increases since you received your equity, those taxes could be substantial even though you won't have cash from selling shares to pay them. Also, make sure you understand exactly when your vesting dates are and try to get the company's most recent 409A valuation reports so you can estimate what you'll owe. Being proactive about this will save you from scrambling when tax time comes around.

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Levi Parker

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This is really solid advice, especially about setting up a separate savings account for taxes! I'm new to equity compensation and had no idea about the "phantom income" issue until reading this thread. Quick question - do you know if there's a general rule of thumb for what percentage of the vested value to set aside for taxes? I'm trying to figure out how much to save since I have no idea what tax bracket this will put me in.

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Evelyn Kim

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Great question! A good rule of thumb is to set aside 35-40% of the vested value for taxes, though this can vary based on your total income and state taxes. The equity income will be treated as ordinary income (not capital gains), so it gets added to your regular salary and taxed at your marginal rate. If this pushes you into a higher tax bracket or you're in a high-tax state like California, you might want to be even more conservative and save closer to 45-50%. It's better to overestimate and have extra cash than to scramble during tax season. Also consider that you'll likely owe quarterly estimated taxes once the amounts get substantial - the IRS doesn't like waiting until April to get paid on large income items. A tax professional familiar with equity compensation can help you set up the quarterly payments properly.

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Summer Green

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Just to add some practical info on donation values - I volunteer at a nonprofit thrift store and here are some ballpark clothing values we use that the IRS generally accepts: - Men's shirts: $5-10 - Women's tops: $4-12 - Jeans/pants: $5-12 - Coats/jackets: $10-40 - Shoes: $3-9 These are general ranges and condition matters a lot! A worn-out shirt is worth less than a like-new one with tags still on.

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What about designer clothes? I donated some higher-end items that originally cost hundreds. Surely they're worth more than regular clothes?

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Summer Green

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Designer items can definitely be valued higher, but you need to be reasonable about it. The IRS looks at fair market value (what someone would pay for it used) not the original price. A $300 designer blouse might be valued at $30-60 when donated, depending on condition and brand desirability. For higher-value donations, especially if the total exceeds $500, you should complete Form 8283. And for anything you value over $250 per item, make sure you have excellent documentation with detailed descriptions. Taking photos of designer labels along with the items can be helpful documentation too.

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Don't forget that it's not just about the amount of donations - it's whether you have enough TOTAL itemized deductions to exceed the standard deduction. My wife and I donate about $1,200 a year but we still take the standard deduction because our mortgage interest and state taxes aren't enough to push us over the threshold.

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Darcy Moore

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This is such an important point. We donated nearly $2k last year but still took the standard deduction. Feels like we get no tax benefit from our generosity!

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Isaiah Cross

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Has anyone actually checked if not claiming legit business expenses could trigger an audit? I've always been told that the IRS algorithms flag returns that don't match expected patterns for your industry. Like if most bookkeepers claim around 20-30% expenses but you claim zero, wouldn't that look weird?

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Kiara Greene

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Tax preparer here (not a CPA). The IRS does use a system called the Discriminant Information Function (DIF) that scores returns based on averages for your industry. Extremely low expenses can potentially raise your DIF score, but it's just one of many factors. Generally, understating deductions is less likely to trigger an audit than overstating them, but significant deviations from industry norms in either direction can increase scrutiny.

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Emily Sanjay

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I think you're overcomplicating this. The math is pretty straightforward - you should always claim your legitimate business expenses because of the self-employment tax implications that others have mentioned. Here's why: In your Option 1, you'd have $16,000 in net earnings subject to SE tax (15.3%), which is about $2,448 in SE taxes. In your Option 2, you'd have $20,000 in net earnings subject to SE tax, which is about $3,060 in SE taxes. That's an extra $612 you'd be paying unnecessarily. Plus, your Solo 401k contribution limits are based on your net self-employment earnings anyway, so claiming legitimate expenses doesn't actually hurt your contribution capacity - it just makes your tax situation more accurate and saves you money on SE taxes. The IRS doesn't care if you don't claim every possible deduction, but why would you voluntarily pay more taxes than you legally owe? Take the deductions you're entitled to, pay the correct amount of SE tax, and then contribute what makes sense to your Solo 401k based on your actual net earnings.

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