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Don't forget to look at your state tax rules too! In my state (Virginia), the rules for who can be claimed as a dependent follow federal rules, but the tax benefits can be different. My daughter works part-time while in college, and I claim her federally, but there's a special deduction in our state that she can claim on her state return even while being my dependent.
That's a good point! I'm in California and found out there are some differences with the state return too. Does anyone know if there's a resource that compares all the state rules for dependents in one place? I'm helping my niece with this same situation.
I don't know of a single resource that compares all state rules, unfortunately. Each state's tax department website usually has their own publications explaining their dependent rules and credits. The best approach is to use good tax software that handles both federal and state returns. It will apply the right rules for your specific state once you enter all your information. That's what I did last year, and it caught a state-specific credit for college students that I would have missed otherwise.
Just want to emphasize something that might save you stress later - make sure you and your dad are on the same page about who's claiming you BEFORE you both file. If you accidentally file as independent and your dad also claims you as his dependent, the IRS will send notices to both of you asking for documentation to prove who has the right to claim the exemption. This happened to my friend last year and it delayed both of their refunds by months while they sorted it out. The IRS basically freezes both returns until you provide proof of support. Since your dad is paying tuition and most expenses, he should definitely claim you, but just coordinate so you both file consistently from the start. Also, even though you're filing as a dependent, you might still be eligible for the Earned Income Tax Credit if your income is low enough, which could increase your refund beyond just getting back withheld taxes.
Don't forget to sign and date each return! I mailed in my 2022 return last year and got it returned to me 2 months later because I forgot to sign it. Such a stupid mistake but it delayed everything. And make sure to use the correct address for where you're supposed to mail prior year returns - it's different depending on your state.
Good reminder! I've also heard they won't process a return without the proper attachments. So if you're claiming certain credits, make sure you attach ALL the required supporting documents.
Just wanted to add another important tip - when you print your W-2s from the IRS website, make sure you're printing them at 100% scale (not "fit to page"). The IRS can be picky about document formatting, and if the forms are shrunk down or stretched, it might cause processing delays. Also, if you have any 1099 forms (for contract work, interest, etc.), you can get those from your IRS transcript too and print them the same way. The key is making sure everything is legible and matches the official format exactly. I'd recommend doing a test print on regular paper first to check the formatting before printing your final copies on good quality paper.
This is really helpful! I didn't know about the 100% scale requirement. Quick question - when you say "good quality paper," does regular printer paper work or should I use something heavier like cardstock? I want to make sure the IRS doesn't reject my returns over something silly like paper quality.
Has anyone used the "substantially equal periodic payments" (SEPP) method to withdraw from a SEP IRA? I'm considering this to avoid the 10% penalty since I'm only 52.
I've been doing SEPP (72t distributions) from my SEP for about 2 years now. It works but be super careful - if you mess up even one payment amount or timing, the IRS can retroactively apply penalties to ALL your previous withdrawals. I recommend getting professional help setting it up. Also, you're locked into the payment schedule until you're 59Β½ or for 5 years, whichever is longer.
This is a really complex situation that highlights why SEP IRAs can be tricky for people who transition from business to personal contributions. Based on what others have shared here, it sounds like you have a few different issues to untangle: 1. Tax withholding on withdrawals - as mentioned, SEP IRA distributions will have taxes withheld regardless of how you contributed 2. Missed deductions - if you contributed from personal funds after closing your business but didn't claim tax deductions, you may have double-taxed that money 3. Potential amended returns - you might be able to recover some of those missed deductions if you're still within the filing window Given how complicated this has gotten, I'd strongly recommend getting professional help to sort out your contribution history and determine exactly what your tax situation is before making any withdrawals. The stories others shared about using services like taxr.ai or getting through to actual IRS agents via Claimyr sound like they could be really helpful for someone in your position. Don't let this drag on - the longer you wait, the fewer options you'll have for recovering those missed deductions.
This is really helpful advice! As someone new to SEP IRAs, I'm wondering if there's a way to prevent this kind of confusion from happening in the first place. Should people always work with a tax professional when setting up a SEP IRA, especially if they're transitioning between business and personal situations? It seems like there are so many rules and potential pitfalls that could cost thousands of dollars if you get them wrong.
This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm dealing with a CP140 notice myself (just received it yesterday) and I'm taking notes on everyone's strategies. One question I haven't seen addressed yet - for those who successfully got interest or penalties removed, how long did the whole process take from start to finish? I'm trying to decide whether to pay immediately to stop additional interest from accruing, or wait to see if I can get some relief first. Also, did anyone run into issues with the IRS claiming they DID send previous notices even when you have proof you didn't receive them? I'm worried about getting into a "he said, she said" situation where they insist notices were sent but I have no way to prove I didn't get them.
Great questions! From my experience (and what I've seen from others), the timeline varies quite a bit. Phone calls for first-time penalty abatement can be resolved immediately, but written requests for interest abatement typically take 6-12 weeks to get a response. Some people in this thread mentioned 3+ months for full resolution. Regarding your payment strategy - most tax pros recommend paying immediately to stop the interest clock, then pursuing refunds. Interest continues accruing daily, so even a successful dispute later might not save you much if it takes months to resolve. As for the "proof" issue - this is exactly why getting those detailed transcripts is so crucial. The Record of Account transcript will show if notices were actually generated and when. If they claim notices were sent but the transcript shows gaps or inconsistencies, that's your evidence. Also, if you've moved recently, check if they have your correct address on file - that's often the smoking gun in these cases.
I want to add one more resource that hasn't been mentioned yet - the Taxpayer Advocate Service (TAS). If you're having trouble getting the IRS to respond to your requests or if you're facing financial hardship because of this situation, you can contact TAS at 1-877-777-4778. They're an independent organization within the IRS that helps taxpayers resolve problems when normal channels aren't working. TAS can be particularly helpful if you're dealing with systemic issues like notices going to wrong addresses repeatedly, or if the IRS isn't responding to your abatement requests within reasonable timeframes. They have the authority to issue Taxpayer Assistance Orders that can stop collection actions while your case is being reviewed. I used TAS last year when the IRS kept insisting I owed money that I had already paid, and they were able to get everything sorted out within a few weeks when my own calls and letters weren't getting anywhere. It's a free service and they really advocate for you against the IRS bureaucracy. Worth keeping in your back pocket if the standard approaches don't work out.
This is fantastic additional information about the Taxpayer Advocate Service - I had never heard of TAS before! It's reassuring to know there's an independent advocate within the IRS system when things get stuck in bureaucracy. The fact that they can issue Taxpayer Assistance Orders to stop collection actions is particularly valuable for situations like these CP140 cases where people might be facing liens or other serious consequences while trying to resolve address/notification issues. I'm bookmarking that number (1-877-777-4778) just in case my own CP140 situation doesn't get resolved through the normal channels. It seems like having TAS as a backup option gives you more leverage when dealing with the IRS - knowing you can escalate to an independent advocate if they're being unreasonable about abatement requests or not responding to legitimate disputes. Thanks for sharing your experience with them!
Mila Walker
I went through something very similar with PayUSATax two years ago and it was incredibly stressful! The website confirmation system is definitely buggy, but here's what I learned from my experience: Your payment most likely DID go through despite not seeing the confirmation page. This is actually a known issue with their system - the payment processing happens on the backend even when the frontend confirmation fails. Here's what I'd suggest in order of priority: 1. **Check your email** (including spam) over the next 24-48 hours. PayUSATax confirmation emails are often delayed but they do eventually come through. 2. **Monitor your bank account** starting tomorrow. Look for any pending or posted transactions from "PayUSATax," "IRS Payment," or similar. This will show up before the IRS systems update. 3. **Call PayUSATax directly** at 1-844-729-8298 on Monday morning. Have your SSN, payment amount ($57), and the approximate time you made the payment ready. Their phone support can immediately tell you if the payment was processed. 4. **Don't make a second payment** until you've confirmed the first one didn't go through - you'd have to go through a lengthy refund process with the IRS if you pay twice. The fact that you got to the review page and clicked confirm is a good sign - most people who have this issue find out their payment was successful. Try not to worry too much over the weekend, and definitely don't assume your banking info was compromised. PayUSATax is legitimate, their website is just terrible! Keep us posted on what you find out - I'm sure other people will have this same issue this tax season.
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SebastiΓ‘n Stevens
β’This is exactly what I needed to hear! I've been stressing all weekend about this PayUSATax issue and your step-by-step approach makes perfect sense. I'm definitely going to wait until Monday to call them before panicking and trying to make another payment. It's such a relief to know this is a common problem and that the payments usually go through even when the website glitches out. I'll make sure to check my spam folder too - I hadn't thought of that. Thanks for sharing your experience and helping calm my nerves!
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GalacticGuardian
I can totally relate to this PayUSATax nightmare! I had almost the identical experience last year - got all the way to the confirmation step, clicked the button, and then... nothing. Just dumped back to the homepage with no receipt or confirmation number. Like others have mentioned, your payment almost certainly went through despite the website glitch. Here's what I did that might help you feel more confident: **Immediate steps:** - Check your bank account daily starting tomorrow for any pending charges from PayUSATax/IRS Payment - Set up account alerts on your bank account if you haven't already - you'll get notified the moment any transaction posts - Save/screenshot the PayUSATax transaction details page if you can still access it through your browser history **If you don't see anything by Wednesday:** Call PayUSATax at 1-844-729-8298. I called them last year and despite their terrible website, the phone rep was actually helpful. She confirmed my payment had processed within about 2 minutes of looking up my info. **Backup plan:** If for some reason the payment truly didn't go through, you can use the IRS Direct Pay system as others mentioned. It's much more reliable and gives you immediate confirmation. The silver lining is that even if there was an issue, you're still well ahead of the April 15th deadline, so you have time to sort it out without penalties. Try not to stress too much this weekend - Monday you'll have definitive answers!
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Mary Bates
β’This is so reassuring to read! I'm actually going through this exact same situation right now - filed yesterday and had the PayUSATax website dump me back to the homepage after clicking confirm. I've been refreshing my email every hour hoping for some kind of receipt, but nothing yet. Your advice about setting up bank account alerts is really smart - I just did that and feel a bit better knowing I'll get notified immediately when something posts. It's frustrating that such an important financial transaction has such unreliable confirmation, but it sounds like this happens to a lot of people and usually works out fine. Thanks for sharing your experience and the practical steps!
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