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Does anyone know if u need to set this up differently for different accounting software programs? Im using Xero and it just asks me to set up "tax rates" without this recoverable/non-recoverable distinction. So confused!!!
In Xero, you typically set up tax rates differently. For US businesses, you'd usually create tax rates for what you COLLECT from customers. For purchases, you'd normally just expense the whole amount including tax since US sales tax isn't recoverable. Some software uses different terminology but the concept is the same.
This is such a common confusion point for new business owners! You're absolutely right that US sales taxes are generally non-recoverable, unlike VAT systems. When setting up QuickBooks or any accounting software for a US business, you should select "non-recoverable" for sales taxes. The key thing to remember is that in the US, you collect sales tax from your customers and remit it to the state, but any sales tax you pay on your own business purchases becomes part of your cost of goods sold or business expenses. You can't offset what you pay against what you collect like you can with VAT. For your e-commerce business, make sure you're also registered for sales tax collection in states where you have nexus (physical or economic presence). Each state has different thresholds and rules. And don't forget - while the sales tax you pay isn't "recoverable" through the sales tax system, it is deductible as a business expense on your income tax return, which still provides some tax benefit. Good luck with your new business setup!
Thanks Carmen, this is really helpful! I'm just getting started with my online business too and was wondering - when you mention registering for sales tax collection in states where you have nexus, how do you keep track of all the different state thresholds? Some states seem to have really low economic nexus thresholds (like $100K in sales) while others are higher. Is there a good resource or tool that helps monitor when you cross these thresholds across multiple states?
This is so helpful to read! I filed on 2/8, did my identity verification on 2/20, and I'm still waiting for any movement on my transcript. It's been almost a month since filing and I was starting to worry something was wrong. Seeing everyone's timelines here gives me hope that I should see my 570 code appear soon - it looks like there's usually a 2-3 week gap between verification and the code showing up. The pattern of getting the DDD 3-4 days before the 570 date seems really consistent across everyone's experiences. I've already started checking my transcript daily in anticipation! š Happy early birthday btw - what perfect timing that would be if your refund hits right around then! This community has been such a lifesaver for understanding what to expect during this whole process.
Welcome to the community! Your timeline is actually really encouraging even though you haven't seen movement yet. Based on what I've been reading through all these posts, it looks like there's typically a 2-4 week window between identity verification and seeing the 570 code appear on transcripts. Since you verified on 2/20, you're right in that expected timeframe for seeing updates soon! I'm newer to understanding all these codes too, but the consistent patterns everyone's sharing here make the whole process feel much less mysterious. The fact that so many people are reporting the same 3-4 day pattern before their 570 date gives me confidence that once your code appears, you'll be able to predict your refund timing pretty accurately. I've definitely become part of the daily transcript checking club while waiting for my own updates! š Keep us posted when you see that 570 code - it sounds like you should be seeing movement any day now based on everyone else's experiences!
I'm in almost the exact same situation! Filed on 2/9, completed identity verification on 2/23, and just saw my 570 code appear yesterday dated 3/26. Reading through everyone's experiences here is incredibly reassuring - the consistent pattern of receiving the DDD 3-4 days before the 570 date gives me so much hope that we're all in the final stretch now! I've definitely become an obsessive transcript checker too š - there's something oddly comforting knowing I'm not the only one refreshing that page multiple times a day. The birthday timing would be absolutely perfect! Based on all the shared timelines here, it really seems like once you complete identity verification and see that 570 code, you're basically just waiting for the system to catch up. I'm cautiously optimistic we'll all see our 846 codes within the next few days. This community has been such a lifesaver for understanding what these codes actually mean and managing the stress of waiting. Thanks for sharing your timeline - it's so helpful to see we're all moving through this process together!
Welcome to the community! I'm also new here and in a very similar situation - filed on 2/17, verified identity on 3/2, and still anxiously waiting for my 570 code to appear. Reading through all these timelines is giving me so much hope though! It's amazing how consistent the pattern seems to be across everyone's experiences. The fact that you just got your 570 code yesterday means you're probably just days away from seeing that 846 code based on what everyone else has shared. I've definitely joined the obsessive transcript checking club too š - it's become part of my morning routine! The 3-4 day pattern before the 570 date seems really reliable, so you'll probably see your DDD around 3/22-3/23 if the pattern holds. This community has been incredible for understanding what all these codes mean and knowing we're not alone in this waiting process. Fingers crossed for all of us who are in this final stretch!
Excellent discussion on suspended passive losses! As someone who's been managing rental properties for over 15 years, I wanted to add a few practical points that might help with your planning. First, @Jason Brewer, your math looks solid on the depreciation calculations. Just make sure you're factoring in any potential bonus depreciation on qualifying property improvements when you convert - this could accelerate some of your deductions in the first year. Regarding the interplay with Section 1031 exchanges that @Luca Romano mentioned - this is where things get really interesting. In a like-kind exchange, your suspended passive losses don't get triggered because you're not "disposing" of the activity - you're continuing it with replacement property. The suspended losses carry forward to the new property along with your exchanged basis. However, if you do a partial exchange (where you receive some cash "boot" in addition to the replacement property), that boot portion is taxable and can trigger use of your suspended losses proportionally. One strategy I've used successfully is to accumulate suspended losses for several years, then do a strategic partial exchange where I take out some cash to reinvest elsewhere while still deferring most of the gain. This allows me to use some suspended losses while maintaining the rental activity for continued tax benefits. Also worth noting - if you ever decide to move back into the rental property as your primary residence (within certain time limits), there are special rules that could affect both your suspended losses and capital gains exclusion eligibility. Something to keep in mind for long-term planning. The key is keeping meticulous records from day one. I use a simple spreadsheet tracking annual suspended losses, property improvements, and depreciation taken - makes everything much easier come sale time!
This is incredibly helpful insight, especially about the 1031 exchange strategies! I'm just starting to wrap my head around all these interconnected tax rules, but the partial exchange concept you mentioned sounds really intriguing - being able to access some cash while still deferring most of the gain and using suspended losses strategically. A couple of follow-up questions if you don't mind: When you mention bonus depreciation on qualifying property improvements during conversion - are you referring to things like new appliances, flooring, or HVAC systems? And is there a specific threshold or timeline for when these improvements need to be made to qualify? Also, regarding your spreadsheet tracking system - do you track anything beyond the basics you mentioned (suspended losses, improvements, depreciation)? I want to make sure I'm capturing everything I'll need for future tax planning and compliance. The point about potentially moving back into the property is really interesting too. I hadn't considered that scenario, but given that this will be our former primary residence, it's definitely possible we might want to move back at some point. Are there specific time limits or other requirements I should be aware of that could affect the tax treatment? Thanks for sharing your real-world experience - this kind of practical guidance is exactly what I needed to hear!
This has been such an informative thread! As someone who's been considering converting my primary residence to a rental, I'm grateful for all the detailed explanations about suspended passive losses and their treatment upon sale. I have a follow-up question about documentation that I haven't seen addressed: What specific records should I be keeping each year to substantiate my suspended passive losses? I understand Form 8582 is key, but are there other supporting documents the IRS would want to see if they ever audited the suspended loss carryforwards years down the road? Also, for those who mentioned using tax software - has anyone found particular software packages that handle rental property passive loss tracking better than others? I want to make sure I'm using something reliable that won't miss the carryforward calculations like some people have experienced. One more consideration I'm wondering about: If I have other investments that generate passive income (like certain partnerships or S-corp distributions), would it make sense to try to generate more passive income to use up my suspended losses earlier rather than waiting until sale? Or is it generally better to let them accumulate for the eventual sale when they can offset any type of income? Thanks again to everyone who's shared their experiences - this is exactly the kind of practical guidance that's so hard to find elsewhere!
This is such a smart approach to learning taxes! I wish I had been this proactive when I started filing. One resource I haven't seen mentioned yet is the **IRS Interactive Tax Assistant (ITA)** on their website. It's like a decision tree that walks you through tax questions with yes/no answers and gives you personalized guidance based on your situation. Really helpful for understanding what applies to you specifically. Also, since you mentioned wanting to understand deductions and credits, try looking up **Publication 17** (Your Federal Income Tax) on the IRS website. I know it sounds boring, but it's actually written in pretty plain English and covers all the common scenarios. You can search for specific topics like "student loan interest" or "standard deduction" to get official explanations. Another practice idea: grab a tax scenario worksheet online (lots of accounting teachers post these) and work through it manually before using software. It really helps you understand the math behind what the apps are doing automatically. You're going to feel so much more confident come tax season! Taking control of your finances at 22 is going to pay off big time in the long run.
The IRS Interactive Tax Assistant is such a hidden gem! I had no idea that existed. Just checked it out and it's way more user-friendly than I expected from an IRS tool. Publication 17 is also great advice - I actually printed out the sections relevant to my situation last year and highlighted the parts that applied to me. Made it much easier to reference when I was going through the software. Love the idea about working through scenarios manually first! There's something about doing the math yourself that really makes the concepts stick. Plus when you see how the software calculates everything automatically, you'll actually understand what it's doing instead of just trusting it blindly. @Natasha Orlova - you re'definitely on the right track with wanting to learn this stuff properly. The fact that you re'thinking ahead shows you ll'probably be way better at taxes than most people who just wing it every year!
Another excellent practice resource is the **AARP Tax-Aide program materials**. Even though it's designed for seniors, they have some of the best beginner-friendly explanations of tax concepts I've ever seen. You can find their training presentations online, and they break down complex topics like itemizing vs standard deduction in really clear terms. For hands-on practice, I'd also suggest checking out your local library - many have tax prep software available for free use, and librarians are surprisingly knowledgeable about tax resources. Some libraries even offer basic tax workshops in January/February. One thing that really helped me was creating "tax scenarios" for friends and family members (with their permission) - like "what if my sister had moved states mid-year" or "what if my dad had started a side business." Working through hypothetical situations with the practice software helped me understand edge cases I never would have thought of with just my own simple situation. The fact that you're starting this learning process now instead of panicking in March shows incredible maturity. You're going to save yourself so much stress and probably money too by catching deductions you might have missed otherwise!
This is such a comprehensive list of resources! I never thought about using AARP materials - that's brilliant since they probably explain things without assuming you already know tax jargon. The library suggestion is gold too. I just checked and my local library actually has a "Tax Help" section on their website with links to free resources and they're offering workshops next month. Definitely signing up! Creating hypothetical scenarios for family members is such a clever practice method. It's like tax word problems but with real-world applications. I'm already thinking about how my situation might change if I pick up freelance work next year or move after graduation. @Natasha Orlova - between all these suggestions, you re'going to be more prepared than 90% of people! I wish I had known about half of these resources when I was starting out. You ve'got this!
StarSurfer
Check ur mail like a hawk. I missed my notice and had to request a copy which added another 3 weeks to my wait smh
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Rami Samuels
Ugh I feel your pain! Been stuck on 570 for about 5 weeks now and it's driving me absolutely crazy. I've tried calling the IRS like 20 times but can never get through to a human - just that automated message saying they're too busy. I saw a bunch of people mentioning taxr.ai in the comments and honestly thinking about trying it at this point. For $4.99 it seems worth it just to get some peace of mind about what's actually going on with my return. Better than sitting here refreshing WMR every hour like some kind of maniac š Has anyone here actually had their 570 clear recently? Starting to wonder if this is gonna drag on for months...
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