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I know this is slightly off topic, but which medical studies are paying so well? I've only been finding ones that pay like $50-100 for a day of testing, and you made $5,800? Are you doing pharmaceutical trials or something more involved?
Not OP but I've done several clinical trials for new medications. The longer studies with overnight stays can pay really well - I did one that was 3 overnight stays and numerous follow-up visits that paid $4,200. The compensation usually relates to the level of risk and time commitment.
I'm a tax professional and can confirm that your medical study income on 1099-MISC forms absolutely qualifies as earned income for Roth IRA contributions. The IRS considers compensation for your time, participation, and following study protocols as "payment for services rendered," which falls squarely under the earned income definition. The key test is whether you're being paid for your active participation versus just receiving reimbursement for expenses. Since you're undergoing tests, taking medications, attending appointments, and following specific protocols, you're clearly providing services that warrant compensation. A few important points to remember: - This income is subject to self-employment tax (15.3%), so plan accordingly - You'll need to file Schedule C to report this business income - Keep records of any unreimbursed expenses related to your participation (travel, parking, etc.) as these may be deductible - The $6,500 Roth IRA contribution limit for 2024 still applies regardless of your total earned income Your $5,800 from medical studies gives you plenty of room to make a substantial Roth contribution this year. Just make sure to set aside funds for the additional taxes you'll owe on this self-employment income.
This is really helpful confirmation from a professional perspective! I'm curious about the Schedule C requirement - since this isn't really a "business" in the traditional sense, do I still need to treat it like one? And for the business description on Schedule C, would I just put something like "Medical research participant" or is there a more official category the IRS expects? Also, when you mention keeping records of unreimbursed expenses, does that include things like time off work to attend appointments, or just direct out-of-pocket costs like transportation and parking?
The IRS is so behind rn its not even funny. My brother filed in February last year and didnt see his $ until September smh
this is why im using taxr.ai this year. no more guessing games
I'm in a similar situation - filed with TurboTax about a week ago and got the acceptance notification. From what I've read, the test batch thing is mostly for early filers in December/January before the season officially opens. Since we're filing now during regular season, we're definitely in the normal processing queue. The 21-day timeline is pretty standard for simple returns, but it can vary. I've been checking WMR obsessively too š Hang in there!
I'm in the exact same situation! Filed our 941-X for 2020 Q2 and Q3 back in September 2021 and still nothing. We're a small restaurant that kept 8 employees on payroll even when we were only doing takeout orders during the lockdowns. The credit would be around $42,000 for us. I've been following this thread closely and just wanted to say thank you to everyone sharing their experiences and suggestions. It's reassuring to know we're not alone in this endless waiting game, even though it's frustrating that so many small businesses are still stuck in limbo. Based on what I'm reading here, it sounds like persistence is key - whether that's through the phone services mentioned, document review tools, or just keeping detailed records for follow-up letters. Has anyone had success with congressional inquiries? I've heard mixed things about whether local representatives can actually help with IRS issues like this.
I reached out to my congressman's office about my ERC delay last year and surprisingly got some help! They have a specific process for tax-related inquiries where they can submit a congressional inquiry to the IRS on your behalf. It took about 6 weeks, but I got a response from the IRS through my congressman's office with an actual timeline estimate for my claim. They couldn't speed up the process, but at least I got confirmation that my 941-X wasn't lost and an estimated processing timeframe. The key is you need to show you've already tried normal channels first - so document your phone call attempts, any letters you've sent, etc. Most congressional offices have a standard form on their website for tax issues. Worth a shot if you've been waiting this long!
This thread has been incredibly helpful - thank you all for sharing your experiences! I'm in a similar situation with our 2020 ERC claim filed via 941-X in late 2021, still waiting. Reading through everyone's updates, it seems like there are really three main approaches that have worked: 1) Using tools like taxr.ai to identify and fix potential errors in your filing, 2) Getting through to the IRS via services like Claimyr to get actual status updates, and 3) Being persistent with follow-up documentation and inquiry letters. What strikes me is how many of you discovered errors or missing documentation that was causing delays - makes me wonder if I should review my own filing more carefully. The IRS clearly isn't going to tell you what's wrong; you have to figure it out yourself. For those still waiting like me, it's frustrating but somewhat comforting to know this isn't unusual. Emma Wilson's 26-month timeline gives me hope that these claims are still being processed, just very slowly. I think I'll try the document review approach first, then maybe the phone service if I can't identify any obvious issues with my filing. Has anyone here had their claim outright denied, or have most of you who waited long enough eventually received payment?
Great summary of the options, Rami! I'm new to this community but have been lurking and reading through everyone's experiences. Like you, I filed my 941-X for 2020 in late 2021 and am still waiting on about $38,000 in ERC refunds. From what I've gathered here, most people who waited it out eventually got paid - I haven't seen anyone report an outright denial yet, which is encouraging. The delays seem to be more about processing backlogs and catching errors rather than the IRS rejecting legitimate claims. I think your three-step approach makes sense. I'm planning to start with reviewing my documentation first too. Based on what Paolo and Amina shared about finding calculation errors they didn't know they had, it seems like there might be common mistakes that are easy to overlook but cause major delays. Has anyone kept track of what the most common errors are that these review tools find? Might be helpful for those of us doing our own document review to know what to look for specifically.
Great question about tracking capital loss carryovers! I've been dealing with this exact situation for the past 3 years after some unfortunate investment decisions during the market volatility. One thing I learned the hard way is to keep detailed records beyond just relying on tax software. While most software does track carryovers reasonably well, I've found it helpful to maintain my own backup documentation. I keep a simple folder with: 1. Copy of each year's Schedule D and Capital Loss Carryover Worksheet 2. All 1099-B forms and investment statements 3. A one-page summary showing my remaining carryover balance each year The reason this became important for me is that I switched from TurboTax to FreeTaxUSA one year, and while the new software asked about prior year carryovers, having my own records made the transition seamless. I could easily verify that the carryover amounts were entered correctly. Also, don't forget that if you have a really large loss like yours, you might want to consider the timing of future gains strategically. For instance, if you're planning to sell some winners, you might want to spread those sales across multiple years to make the most of your loss carryover rather than using it all up in one year with a large gain. The 9+ year timeline you mentioned is actually pretty common with substantial losses. Just stay organized and you'll be fine!
This is really helpful advice! I'm curious about the strategic timing you mentioned - if I have a $28k loss carryover like the original poster, would it make sense to deliberately realize some gains each year to use up the carryover faster? Or is it generally better to just let it carry forward naturally and take the $3k deduction against ordinary income each year? I'm trying to figure out if there's an optimal strategy for managing large loss carryovers.
That's a great strategic question! The optimal approach really depends on your tax situation and investment timeline. Generally, it's often beneficial to strategically realize some gains each year to use up your loss carryover, especially if you're in a lower tax bracket or have investments you were planning to sell anyway. Here's why: 1. Using losses against capital gains is more tax-efficient than the $3k ordinary income deduction, since you're avoiding capital gains taxes entirely rather than just getting a deduction. 2. If you're in the 0% long-term capital gains bracket (single filers with income under ~$47k, married filing jointly under ~$94k for 2024), you could potentially realize significant gains with zero tax impact. 3. It prevents you from being "stuck" with a loss carryover for many years if your investment strategy changes. However, you don't want to force sales just for tax purposes if it doesn't align with your investment goals. The key is to be intentional - if you have positions you're considering selling anyway, timing those sales to use your loss carryover can be very beneficial. With a $28k loss, you might consider realizing $5-10k in gains annually (depending on your situation) rather than just taking the $3k deduction each year. This could cut your carryover period in half while still being manageable from a tax planning perspective.
I went through something very similar last year with about $35k in losses from some unfortunate crypto investments. One thing I discovered that really helped was setting up a simple tracking system using a basic notebook alongside whatever digital records I kept. Each January, I write down my starting loss carryover amount at the top of a new page. Throughout the year, I note any capital gains/losses as they happen, along with the dates and amounts. At tax time, I can easily see the full picture and verify that my tax software is calculating everything correctly. The physical backup has saved me twice now - once when I accidentally deleted some files, and another time when switching between tax preparers. Having that simple written record made it easy to reconstruct everything. Also, don't underestimate the value of taking screenshots of your final tax forms each year, especially the Capital Loss Carryover Worksheet. Store them in a dedicated folder (both digital and print if possible). The IRS can ask for documentation going back several years, and having everything organized from the start will save you major headaches down the road. With a $28k loss, you're looking at nearly a decade of carryovers like you said. The key is building sustainable tracking habits now rather than trying to reconstruct everything years later. Good luck with it!
Yuki Nakamura
This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm a CPA and wanted to add one important point that hasn't been fully addressed - documentation is absolutely critical for gift tax valuation dates, especially when market volatility is involved. Beyond just keeping your mailing receipt or broker confirmation, I always advise clients to create a simple written record that includes: (1) the exact date you mailed/delivered the transfer documents, (2) the stock's closing price on that date, (3) the exact number of shares being gifted, and (4) the calculated total value. Print out the stock quote from that date and staple it to your records. This becomes especially important if the IRS ever questions your valuation date during an audit. Having contemporaneous documentation showing you calculated the gift value based on the date you relinquished control (rather than trying to reconstruct it later) provides much stronger support for your position. Also, for anyone getting close to the annual exclusion limits, consider making the gift earlier in December rather than late in the year. This gives you more flexibility if market movements put you over the limit - you'd still have time to make additional planning moves before year-end if needed.
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Jessica Nguyen
ā¢This is excellent advice about documentation! As someone who went through an IRS audit a few years back (unrelated issue), I can confirm that having contemporaneous records makes all the difference. One thing I'd add - if you're using online brokerage platforms, take screenshots of both the stock price AND your account showing the pending transfer on the date you submit everything. I learned this the hard way when trying to reconstruct values months later and finding that historical data wasn't as easily accessible as I thought it would be. The December timing tip is brilliant too. I made a gift on December 29th last year and spent the whole holiday weekend stressed about whether a last-minute price jump would push me over the limit. Starting earlier in December would have given me so much more peace of mind and flexibility to adjust if needed.
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Luca Ferrari
As someone who works in estate planning, I wanted to add a practical tip for anyone dealing with volatile stocks during gift transfers. Consider using a "collar" strategy if you're worried about price movements after initiating the transfer. Once you've mailed your transfer documents (establishing your valuation date), you could potentially purchase put options on the same stock to protect against further upside that might push you over the annual exclusion. This doesn't change your gift valuation date, but it can provide some peace of mind if you're cutting it close to the limit. Obviously, this adds complexity and cost, so it's probably only worth considering for larger gifts or highly volatile stocks. But it's an option that many people don't think about when they're stressed about market movements after the fact. Also, just to echo what others have said - definitely keep detailed records of your mailing date and the stock price that day. I've seen too many clients scramble to reconstruct this information later when they could have easily documented it at the time.
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FireflyDreams
ā¢This collar strategy is really interesting! I never thought about using options to hedge against price movements after establishing the valuation date. That could definitely provide peace of mind for someone in my situation where the stock has been climbing since I mailed the documents. Just to make sure I understand correctly - since the gift valuation is locked in at the mailing date (1/2 in my case), any hedging I do after that point wouldn't affect the gift tax calculation, right? It would just be protecting me psychologically from watching the "what if" scenario play out? Also, do you happen to know if there are any gift tax implications to the options strategy itself? I assume not since it's a separate transaction in my own account, but want to make sure I'm not creating any unintended complications.
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