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Went through this exact process last filing season. Submitted my 4800C on February 8th and got my refund on March 2nd, so just over 3 weeks. The key was making sure I submitted EXACTLY what they asked for - no more, no less. I made the mistake of sending too much documentation the first time (thought I was being helpful) and they rejected it and made me resubmit. The second time I followed their instructions to the letter and it went through without issues. Hope this helps and good luck!
Did you get any kind of notification when they accepted your documentation, or did you just suddenly see your refund status change?
I can confirm this is accurate. I had a similar experience where I initially provided additional supporting documents thinking it would expedite my verification, but it actually delayed the process. When I resubmitted with precisely what was requested, my verification was completed much more quickly.
Just went through this process myself - submitted my 4800C on February 28th and refund hit my account yesterday (March 8th), so about 8 business days for me. I think timing might depend on how backed up they are when you submit. One thing that helped was checking my account transcript on the IRS website rather than just relying on WMR - it showed the verification hold codes and when they were cleared, which gave me a better sense of what was actually happening behind the scenes. The transcript updated about 2 days before WMR finally showed "approved" status. Hang in there - it's definitely nerve-wracking but they seem to be processing these more efficiently than in previous years.
Wow, 8 business days is incredibly fast! I'm jealous - I'm on day 6 since submitting mine and still nothing. Thanks for the tip about checking the account transcript instead of just WMR. I didn't even know that was a thing! Do you access that through the same IRS website or is it a different portal? Also wondering if the type of documentation required makes any difference in processing time - I had to submit both identity verification AND income verification documents.
Don't panic! Form 1462 usually means there's a discrepancy or missing information in your filing. Since you have your confirmation number, that's great evidence you did file. I'd recommend calling the IRS practitioner priority line if you can get through - sometimes it's just a processing delay on their end. Also make sure to respond within the timeframe they give you (usually 30 days) with copies of your return and that confirmation number. Keep everything organized and document all your communications with them!
This is really solid advice! I've been dealing with IRS notices for years and documentation is everything. @Mateo Hernandez is spot on about the practitioner priority line - it s'way faster than the regular taxpayer line if you can get through. Also want to add that if you re'still stressed about understanding what s'going on, that taxr.ai tool others mentioned is actually legit - I used it last month when I got a CP2000 notice and it broke down exactly what the IRS was looking for. Worth the dollar just for peace of mind!
I went through something similar last year! The key thing is not to panic - Form 1462 is actually pretty common and usually just means there was a processing issue on their end. Since you have your confirmation number, you're in good shape. Make sure to respond promptly with a copy of your original return, that confirmation number, and a cover letter explaining you already filed. I'd also suggest getting your account transcripts from the IRS website to see what they have on file - sometimes that gives you clues about what went wrong. The whole process took about 6-8 weeks for me to resolve, but it worked out fine in the end!
This is really reassuring to hear! 6-8 weeks sounds manageable. Quick question - when you got your account transcripts, did you have to wait for them to mail them or were you able to access them online right away? I'm wondering if I should try to get those before I send my response to see what's showing up on their end.
@Amelia Cartwright You can access your transcripts online immediately if you can verify your identity through the IRS website! Just go to irs.gov and look for Get "Your Tax Record -" you ll'need your SSN, filing status, and either a credit card/mortgage/auto loan account number to verify. Way faster than waiting for them to mail it. Definitely recommend checking what they have on file before you send your response - it might show exactly where the disconnect happened!
Great thread everyone! As someone who's been through this exact process, I wanted to add one more perspective that might help newcomers like Andre. The key thing to remember is that this initial complexity is a one-time setup cost. Yes, the W-9 and NR301 forms seem daunting at first, and tracking multiple transfer agents can feel overwhelming, but once you get everything properly documented, the ongoing maintenance is minimal. I'd also suggest starting a simple tax folder (physical or digital) specifically for your Canadian investments. Keep copies of all your forms, correspondence with transfer agents, and quarterly dividend statements showing the withholding amounts. This saved me hours during tax season when I needed to complete Form 1116 for the foreign tax credit. One thing I learned the hard way: if you're planning to expand your Canadian holdings over time, submit the NR301 forms for new positions as soon as you buy them, rather than waiting to see how much dividend income they'll generate. Even a small dividend payment at 25% withholding instead of 15% adds up over time. The investment in time and paperwork upfront really pays off in the long run, both in terms of proper tax treatment and peace of mind that you're handling everything correctly!
This is such valuable advice, Grace! I really appreciate you emphasizing that this is mostly a one-time setup process - that definitely helps put the initial complexity in perspective. Your point about creating a dedicated tax folder is spot on. I've already started getting overwhelmed just trying to keep track of which forms I need to submit and to whom. Having everything organized from the beginning will definitely save headaches later. The tip about submitting NR301 forms immediately for new positions is particularly helpful. I was thinking I'd wait to see how the dividends looked before bothering with the paperwork, but you're absolutely right that even small amounts add up over time when you're paying 25% instead of 15%. Thanks to everyone in this thread - as a complete newcomer to Canadian dividend investing, this discussion has been incredibly educational and has given me a clear roadmap for getting everything set up properly with Vanguard. I feel much more confident about moving forward now!
As someone who's been navigating Canadian dividend taxation for the past few years, I can definitely relate to your confusion! The good news is that once you understand the process and get the proper documentation in place, it becomes much more manageable. You're absolutely right that both the US and Canada will want to tax your Canadian dividends, but the US-Canada tax treaty helps prevent excessive double taxation. Here's what you need to know: **Forms you'll need:** - **W-9**: Submit this to Vanguard to certify you're a US person for tax purposes - **NR301**: This goes to the transfer agents of your Canadian companies to claim treaty benefits and reduce withholding from 25% to 15% **Key points:** 1. Don't wait - submit these forms as soon as you start investing in Canadian stocks, as it can take 1-3 dividend payment cycles for the reduced withholding to take effect 2. The NR301 forms go to individual transfer agents (not Vanguard), so you'll need a separate form for each Canadian company or their transfer agent 3. Keep detailed records of all Canadian taxes withheld - you'll need this for Form 1116 (Foreign Tax Credit) on your US return **Pro tip:** Start with your largest Canadian positions first to get comfortable with the process, then tackle the smaller holdings. Many companies share the same transfer agents, so it's not always one form per stock. The foreign tax credit on your US return will help offset the Canadian taxes withheld, effectively preventing true double taxation. While the initial setup takes some effort, it's definitely worth it to ensure you're not overpaying taxes on your Canadian dividend income!
Has anybody ever been audited for messing this up? My husband and I accidentally both contributed to dependent care FSAs at different jobs last year (about $4000 each) and I'm freaking out now reading this thread.
Don't panic, but you should address this. The IRS can identify this issue because employers report FSA contributions on your W-2s (usually in box 10). You should file Form 2441 with your tax return to report all dependent care benefits received. The excess contribution (anything over the $5,000 household limit) would need to be included as taxable income on your Form 1040. You'll calculate this on Form 2441. It's not necessarily an audit trigger if you self-correct, but ignoring it could potentially flag your return.
I'm a tax preparer and see this mistake ALL the time! Just to reinforce what others have said - the $5,000 dependent care FSA limit is definitely per household when you're married filing jointly, not per person. What I tell my clients is to think of it this way: the IRS doesn't care which spouse's employer plan you use or how you split it between accounts. They only care about the total household contribution not exceeding $5,000. One practical tip: if you do split contributions between both spouses' FSA accounts, make sure you coordinate your reimbursement claims carefully. You don't want to accidentally submit the same daycare receipt to both accounts for reimbursement - that would be claiming the same expense twice, which is definitely not allowed. Also, keep excellent records of all your childcare expenses throughout the year. You'll need them not just for FSA reimbursements, but also to properly calculate any additional tax credit you might be eligible for on the amounts above your FSA contributions.
This is really helpful, thank you! I'm new to navigating FSAs and had no idea about the coordination issue with reimbursements. Quick question - if we do split our $5,000 between both our FSA accounts (like $2,500 each), do we need to notify our employers about this split, or do they automatically know to coordinate the limits? I want to make sure we don't accidentally go over the household limit when we're setting up our elections for next year.
Andre Dupont
9 I had exactly this issue! The solution is actually pretty simple. Since it's a Roth IRA and Box 2b is checked, you need to determine what portion of the distribution is earnings vs contributions. In TurboTax, there should be a question asking "Do you know your basis in this Roth IRA?" For a Roth that's only been open a few years with a small amount, it's likely very little is actually taxable. Just make sure to enter the total contributions your daughter made to the account (her basis).
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Andre Dupont
ā¢2 This is the correct answer! I'm a tax preparer and deal with this all the time. For Roth IRAs, contributions come out first tax-free, then conversions, then earnings. Since most young people haven't had much growth in their accounts, it's common for distributions to be almost entirely return of contributions, which means zero tax.
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Sophia Gabriel
This is a really common issue that trips up a lot of people! When Box 2a is blank and Box 2b is checked on a 1099-R for a Roth IRA, it means the financial institution is leaving it up to you to determine what's taxable. The key thing to remember is that with Roth IRAs, you get your contributions back first, tax-free. Since your daughter is 24 and only had the account for 3 years, and it was a small distribution of $650, there's a good chance most or all of it was just her original contributions coming back out. Here's what you need to do: Figure out how much she contributed to the Roth IRA over the years vs. how much it grew. If she put in $600 and it grew to $650, then only $50 would be taxable earnings. If she put in the full $650 or more, then nothing is taxable. Check with the financial institution for her contribution history, or look at old tax documents if she claimed the Saver's Credit for Roth contributions. Once you have that number, TurboTax should be able to handle the rest and generate Form 8606 automatically.
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Emma Garcia
ā¢This is really helpful advice! I'm new to dealing with retirement account distributions and this whole situation has been so confusing. One question - when you say to check with the financial institution for contribution history, do they typically have records going back several years? My daughter opened this account when she was in college and I'm not sure she kept good records of exactly how much she contributed each year.
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CosmicVoyager
ā¢Yes, financial institutions are required to keep records of IRA contributions for several years! Most will have this information readily available, especially for accounts that are only a few years old. You can usually get this information by calling their customer service line or logging into the online account portal. If for some reason they don't have complete records, you can also look at your daughter's old tax returns. If she was eligible for and claimed the Retirement Savings Contributions Credit (Saver's Credit) in previous years, those returns would show her IRA contribution amounts. Also, if she made contributions via payroll deduction, old W-2s and paystubs might help reconstruct the contribution history. The IRS also has records of IRA contributions reported on Form 5498, so worst case scenario, you could request transcripts from the IRS, though that's usually more hassle than necessary for something like this.
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