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Yara Nassar

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This is such a helpful thread! I'm in a similar boat - just started freelancing and trying to figure out all the tax stuff. One thing I'm still confused about: when you say the deduction is "limited to your business profit," does that mean your gross revenue or your net profit after all business expenses? For example, if my LLC brings in $50,000 in revenue but I have $20,000 in legitimate business expenses (equipment, software, etc.), would my health insurance deduction be limited to $30,000 or $50,000? Also, does anyone know if there's a difference between buying insurance through the marketplace vs. directly from an insurance company when it comes to this deduction? I've been looking at both options and the marketplace seems more complicated with all the subsidy calculations.

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Yara Khoury

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Great question! The deduction is limited to your NET profit after business expenses, not gross revenue. So in your example with $50,000 revenue and $20,000 in business expenses, your health insurance deduction would be capped at $30,000 (your net profit). As for marketplace vs. direct insurance purchase - there's no difference for the deduction itself. Both qualify equally. However, the marketplace can be more complex because of premium tax credits. If you qualify for subsidies through the marketplace, you can only deduct the amount you actually paid OUT OF POCKET after the credits are applied. So if your premium is $500/month but you get a $200 credit, you can only deduct $300/month. Many people find it easier to buy directly from insurers to avoid the subsidy complications, but you might miss out on significant savings if you qualify for marketplace credits. It's worth running the numbers both ways to see which gives you the better overall financial outcome.

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I've been following this thread as someone who went through the same confusion last year! One additional consideration that hasn't been mentioned yet: timing matters for the deduction. You can only deduct premiums for months when you were actually self-employed and had no other health coverage available. So if you started your LLC mid-year or had employer coverage for part of the year, you'll need to prorate the deduction accordingly. Also, a practical tip: set up a separate business bank account if you haven't already, and pay your health insurance premiums from that account. It makes record-keeping much cleaner and provides a clear paper trail showing that your business income is what's funding the insurance. The IRS loves good documentation! One more thing - if you're planning to make estimated quarterly tax payments (which you probably should as a self-employed person), factor in the health insurance deduction when calculating those payments. It can significantly reduce what you owe, so don't overpay your quarterlies.

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Jacinda Yu

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This is such excellent advice about timing and documentation! I hadn't thought about the proration aspect. Quick question - when you say "no other health coverage available," does that include things like short-term health plans or COBRA from a previous employer? I'm wondering if having COBRA available (but not taking it) would disqualify me from the deduction, similar to the spouse employer coverage rule that was mentioned earlier in the thread. Also, the separate business bank account tip is gold - I've been mixing personal and business expenses and it's already becoming a nightmare to track. Thanks for sharing your experience!

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Tyler Lefleur

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This has been such an educational discussion! I'm a newcomer to this community and just received my first K-1 Form 1041 with Box 11 entries, so this thread has been incredibly helpful. What really struck me reading through everyone's experiences is how the tax code, while complex, actually has logical reasons behind these rules. The distinction between Box 11A (above-the-line deductions that reduce AGI) and Box 11B (itemized deductions) isn't arbitrary - it reflects the fundamental structure of how different types of deductions work in our tax system. I appreciate everyone who shared their real-world experiences and calculations. It's clear that while it might feel frustrating to "lose" the Box 11B deduction when taking the standard deduction, the math typically works out in favor of the standard deduction anyway. The key seems to be not missing that valuable Box 11A deduction on Schedule 1, line 24k. For anyone else new to this situation, the advice to run both scenarios (itemizing vs. standard deduction) using actual numbers seems like the best approach. And as several people mentioned, keeping the bigger picture in mind - that these deductions come from what's likely a beneficial inheritance situation - helps put any "lost" deductions in proper perspective. Thanks to everyone who contributed their knowledge and experience to help others navigate this confusing area of tax law!

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Victoria Brown

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Welcome to the community, Tyler! Your observation about the logical structure behind the tax code is really insightful - it's easy to get frustrated with tax rules until you understand the reasoning behind them. I'm glad this discussion has been helpful for your first K-1 situation. It can definitely be overwhelming when you're dealing with these forms for the first time, but you're absolutely right that the community knowledge shared here makes it much clearer. Your point about keeping the bigger picture in mind is so important. Sometimes we get tunnel vision about individual deductions and forget that receiving a K-1 from a trust termination usually means you've benefited from an inheritance or distribution that far outweighs any tax complications. Best of luck with your filing, and don't hesitate to ask if you run into any other questions as you work through your K-1. This community has been really helpful for navigating these complex situations!

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Diego Mendoza

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Welcome to everyone who's contributed to this incredibly thorough discussion! As a tax professional who specializes in trust and estate taxation, I wanted to add a few technical clarifications that might help future readers. First, the reason Box 11A and 11B are treated differently isn't just about "above-the-line" vs "itemized" deductions - it's specifically because of IRC Section 642(h). This provision governs how excess deductions are passed through to beneficiaries when a trust or estate terminates. Box 11A contains deductions that would have been deductible in arriving at adjusted gross income if paid by an individual, while Box 11B contains deductions that would only be deductible as itemized deductions. Second, for those considering the bunching strategy mentioned earlier, remember that excess deductions on termination are a one-time event. You can't carry them forward or back, so any strategic timing needs to happen in the tax year you receive the K-1. Finally, I'd strongly recommend keeping a copy of the trust's final Form 1041 if you can obtain it from the trustee. It shows exactly how these excess deductions were calculated and can be invaluable if you ever need to explain the deductions to the IRS or a future tax preparer. The consensus here is absolutely correct - claim Box 11A on Schedule 1, line 24k, and don't lose sleep over Box 11B if you're taking the standard deduction. The system is working as designed.

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$13,849 Refund Frozen with Code 810 - No Explanation After 2 Months - HoH Filing with $28,832 AGI, Transcript Shows Clear Credits

Filed my 2022 taxes end of January and they were accepted 1/31. I'm filing as Head of Household with an AGI of $28,832.00 and taxable income of $9,432.00. Got hit with a freeze code 810 on 2/7/2023. My transcript shows a credit balance of -$13,849.00 (made up of -$10,849.00 in W-2/1099 withholding and a -$3,000.00 credit to my account), but I can't get my refund. The IRS says I need to wait 180 days for a letter, and they're saying no verification is needed. My processing date shows as March 13, 2023, and there's no accrued interest or penalties showing as of that date. I pulled my Account Transcript today (4/1/2023) from the IRS website, and it's driving me crazy seeing all this information but still not having my refund. The transcript clearly shows: ACCOUNT BALANCE: -$13,849.00 ACCRUED INTEREST: $0.00 AS OF: Mar. 13, 2023 ACCRUED PENALTY: $0.00 AS OF: Mar. 13, 2023 ACCOUNT BALANCE PLUS ACCRUALS (this is not a payoff amount): -$13,849.00 The information from my return shows: FILING STATUS: Head of Household EXEMPTIONS: 03 ADJUSTED GROSS INCOME: $28,832.00 TAXABLE INCOME: $9,432.00 TAX PER RETURN: $0.00 SE TAXABLE INCOME TAXPAYER: $0.00 SE TAXABLE INCOME SPOUSE: $0.00 TOTAL SELF EMPLOYMENT TAX: $0.00 RETURN DUE DATE OR RETURN RECEIVED DATE (WHICHEVER IS LATER): Apr. 15, 2023 PROCESSING DATE: Mar 13, 2023 Looking at my transcript codes: 150 - Tax return filed (cycle 20230805, dated 03-13-2023) $0.00 70221-432-00537-3 806 - W-2 or 1099 withholding (04-15-2023) -$10,849.00 810 - Refund freeze (02-07-2023) $0.00 766 - Credit to your account (04-15-2023) -$3,000.00 Anyone else stuck in this boat? Why does it take half a year just to get a letter when my account transcript clearly shows everything? My return isn't even due until April 15, 2023, but here I am waiting on nearly $14k with no explanation. The transcript literally says "This Product Contains Sensitive Taxpayer Data" but apparently not sensitive enough for them to process my refund quickly!

Zainab Ismail

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DETAILED EXPLANATION OF 810 FREEZES AND SOLUTIONS: An 810 freeze is basically the IRS's fraud prevention system flagging your return. Here's what you need to know: - These freezes are WAY more common in 2023-2024 due to increased identity theft - Average resolution time is 60-120 days, despite them saying 180 - Your withholding and credits look normal, so this should resolve automatically - DO NOT call multiple times, it doesn't help Pro tip: Instead of stressing daily, use taxr.ai to analyze your transcript. It'll give you a precise timeline and explanation of what's happening. It costs $1 but saves hours of research and anxiety. I've seen it predict release dates with scary accuracy. Source: Been dealing with these freezes for years as a tax consultant.

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Connor O'Neill

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This should be pinned fr

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Yara Nassar

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Just tried taxr.ai and wow... wish I knew about this months ago

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Been in the exact same situation! Filed 1/28, got the 810 freeze 2/3, and I'm sitting here 8 weeks later still waiting. My transcript looks almost identical to yours - $11,200 refund, HoH filing, clean W-2 withholdings, no penalties or interest. The waiting is brutal especially when you can see everything is correct on the transcript. I've called twice and they just repeat the same "wait for the letter" script. At least your processing date of March 13 means they've actually looked at it - mine is still showing as received but not processed. Seeing people say it cleared after 92 days gives me some hope though. Hang in there - we're all in this together! πŸ’ͺ

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Mei Liu

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Ugh this is so frustrating! 8 weeks is already way too long when everything looks clean on the transcript. At least you know you're not alone in this mess. The fact that yours is still showing as received but not processed is actually concerning - have you tried checking if there are any issues with your SSN or address matching? Sometimes that can hold up the initial processing. Really hoping both of ours clear soon! 🀞

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Paolo Longo

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Make sure you're keeping track of your tips accurately! I was a server and got audited because I wasn't reporting tips properly. The IRS has formulas they use to estimate what your tips "should" be based on your sales, and if what you report is way off, it can trigger issues. Also, with the babysitting income, that's considered self-employment and you'll need to pay self-employment tax on it (about 15.3%) if you make over $400 in a year. But you can also deduct expenses like transportation to jobs, any supplies you buy for the kids, etc.

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Amina Bah

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Can confirm this! My roommate got flagged by the IRS because she was only reporting credit card tips and not cash tips. They estimated she should have made about 40% more in tips than she reported and she ended up owing back taxes plus penalties. Not worth the risk!

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Just wanted to add something about timing - since you're planning to move out soon and will be paying your own rent/utilities, make sure you keep detailed records of ALL your expenses from the day you move out. Rent receipts, utility bills, grocery receipts, everything. This documentation will be crucial for calculating the support test next year. The support test looks at the entire tax year, so if you move out mid-year, you'll need to calculate what percentage of the year you supported yourself versus what percentage your parents supported you. Having good records makes this much easier and more accurate. Also, since you mentioned considering that restaurant job with tuition assistance - that benefit might be taxable income depending on how it's structured, so factor that into your calculations too. Some tuition assistance programs are tax-free up to certain limits, others aren't.

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Laila Prince

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This is really helpful advice about record keeping! I'm new to all this tax stuff and wouldn't have thought about tracking expenses from the exact day I move out. Quick question - do things like textbooks, school supplies, and other education expenses count toward the support calculation? And when you mention the tuition assistance potentially being taxable, does that mean it could actually hurt my financial aid eligibility if it's counted as income on my FAFSA?

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Aisha Khan

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I'm a freelance photographer who does a lot of outdoor events and I've been wondering about this same issue with specialized equipment deductions. After reading through all these responses, I'm realizing I should probably be more systematic about documenting my gear usage. I have professional-grade polarized sunglasses that I only use during outdoor shoots because they help me see my camera LCD screen better in bright conditions - regular sunglasses create too much color distortion when I'm trying to check exposure and white balance. They cost about $200 and I literally keep them in my camera bag, never wear them casually. The insurance documentation angle that Connor mentioned is really interesting - my professional liability insurance actually has specific language about proper equipment use and safety protocols. I'm going to reach out to them about getting something in writing regarding protective eyewear for outdoor photography work. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences and documentation strategies. It's clear that having detailed records and being able to demonstrate the specialized nature of the equipment is key to making these deductions stick.

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Your photography situation is actually a really strong case for deductibility! The fact that you can demonstrate the sunglasses serve a specific technical function (reducing LCD screen glare for accurate exposure/white balance checking) rather than just general sun protection makes it much more defensible as specialized equipment. I'd suggest documenting not just when you use them, but specifically how they impact your work quality - maybe keep notes about shoots where proper screen visibility was critical for client deliverables. The color accuracy aspect is particularly compelling since regular sunglasses would actually interfere with your professional judgment. Getting that insurance documentation could be golden, especially if it mentions equipment standards for outdoor professional photography. You might also consider getting a brief statement from a camera equipment retailer or photography educator about why specialized non-distorting eyewear is recommended for professional outdoor work - another layer of expert validation for the business necessity.

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As a tax preparer who's handled numerous Schedule C returns, I want to emphasize something that hasn't been fully addressed yet - the IRS Publication 535 specifically mentions that protective equipment can be deductible when it's required for your occupation and not suitable for general wear. For your situation as a fishing guide, the key factors working in your favor are: 1) You spend the majority of your work day exposed to water glare, 2) Your eye doctor specifically recommended them for occupational use, 3) You have separate personal sunglasses, and 4) The polarized feature serves a specific anti-glare function critical for water safety. I'd recommend keeping that doctor's recommendation letter, receipts for both work and personal sunglasses, and a simple log showing business use. Also consider getting a statement from your professional fishing guide association or licensing body about recommended safety equipment - this adds industry standard validation. The $175 cost is reasonable for specialized marine eyewear and shows you're not being excessive. Just make sure you can clearly articulate why these specific glasses are necessary for your business operations rather than just convenient or preferred.

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