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I'm in almost the exact same situation! Got an EIN in March for a consulting business I was planning to start, opened a business checking account, even bought a laptop specifically for the business. Then I got a fantastic job offer that's been keeping me incredibly busy, so the business idea got shelved indefinitely. I've been stressing about this tax question for months - wondering if I somehow created an obligation just by getting the EIN. Reading through everyone's experiences here has been such a huge relief! It's clear from both the professional advice and people who actually called the IRS that no business activity means no filing requirement. What really helped me understand it was that library card analogy someone mentioned - just having the number doesn't create any obligations unless you actually use it for business purposes. I'm definitely going to close my business checking account this week after reading about potential issues with interest or fees. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences, especially those who went through the hassle of calling the IRS directly. It's amazing how much anxiety this can cause when you're just trying to do everything correctly! Nice to know this is actually a pretty common situation.
I'm so glad this thread helped ease your stress too! I was in a similar situation last year - got an EIN for a web design business, bought equipment, even rented a small office space for a month before realizing the timing wasn't right. The anxiety about potential tax obligations was keeping me up at night until I found discussions like this one. What really struck me reading everyone's experiences is how incredibly common this situation is. It seems like a lot of people get EINs with the best intentions but then life takes unexpected turns. The consistent message from tax professionals and people who actually spoke with IRS agents is so reassuring - they deal with dormant EINs all the time and there's no penalty for changing your plans. Definitely smart to close that business account! I made the mistake of leaving mine open for months and ended up with some small maintenance fees that created unnecessary complications. Better to keep everything clean and simple. Good luck with your new job - sounds like you made the right call focusing on that opportunity!
I'm dealing with this exact situation right now! Got my EIN in late February for what was going to be a freelance web development business, even went ahead and registered a domain and bought some basic equipment. Then an amazing opportunity came up at my current company for a senior developer role that's been consuming all my time and energy. I've been losing sleep over whether I created some kind of tax obligation just by getting the EIN, so this whole discussion has been incredibly helpful! It's really reassuring to see so many people have been through identical situations and gotten clear answers from tax professionals and the IRS directly. The consistent message seems to be that simply having an EIN without any actual business activity doesn't trigger filing requirements. I love that library card analogy - it really puts things in perspective. Just because you have the card doesn't mean you checked out any books! I'm definitely going to follow everyone's advice and close my business checking account this week. I think I may have earned a few dollars in interest that I'll need to check on, but better to deal with that now and keep everything clean going forward. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences, especially those who took the time to actually call the IRS for confirmation. It's amazing how much stress this seemingly simple question can cause when you're just trying to do everything by the book!
I'm so glad this discussion helped you too! I was in a nearly identical situation earlier this year - got an EIN for a consulting business, set everything up, then life took a different direction when I got promoted at my current job. The stress and uncertainty about potential tax obligations was really getting to me until I found threads like this one. What's been most reassuring is seeing how many tax professionals and people who actually spoke with IRS representatives have confirmed the same thing: no business activity means no filing requirement. It really is that straightforward, even though it can feel scary when you're in the middle of it. Definitely check that business account for any interest earnings before you close it - even a few dollars needs to be reported on your personal return. I almost missed $8 in interest on mine! But once that's sorted out, you should be completely in the clear. Good luck with your senior developer role - sounds like you made the right choice focusing on that opportunity instead of spreading yourself thin with a side business right now!
You're definitely making the right call by listening to your instincts here. As someone who works in banking compliance, I can tell you that large deposits absolutely do trigger reporting requirements, and while that doesn't automatically mean trouble, it does create a paper trail that connects you to that money. The "passing through" argument sounds logical, but from the IRS perspective, you had control and access to those funds, which can sometimes be enough to create complications. Plus, if your parents have existing tax issues like you mentioned, there's always the risk that the IRS could place a levy on accounts where they've deposited funds - even if you transfer the money out immediately. I've seen cases where well-meaning family members ended up spending months trying to prove to the IRS that large deposits weren't actually their income. Even when everything gets resolved correctly, it's a huge hassle that's easily avoided. Your plan to help them find proper banking solutions is much smarter. Many credit unions have "fresh start" programs specifically designed for people with past banking problems, and some online banks are surprisingly accommodating. It might take a few applications, but getting them their own account is definitely worth the effort compared to the potential headaches of mixing your finances with theirs.
This insight from someone who actually works in banking compliance is incredibly valuable! The point about the IRS potentially placing levies on accounts where people have deposited funds is especially concerning - I hadn't realized that could happen even after the money is transferred out. It's reassuring to hear that credit unions really do have "fresh start" programs designed for situations like this. Do you have any specific recommendations for what documentation or information people should bring when applying for these types of accounts? It sounds like being prepared could make a big difference in getting approved. Your perspective on the "passing through" argument is also really helpful. It makes sense that from the IRS's viewpoint, having control and access to funds could create complications regardless of intent. Better to avoid that situation entirely than to have to prove your way out of it later.
This thread has been incredibly helpful - thank you to everyone who shared their expertise and experiences! As someone who's dealt with similar family financial situations, I can't emphasize enough how important it is to trust your gut when something feels risky. What really stands out to me from all these responses is how many different ways this seemingly simple arrangement could create complications - from tax implications and bank reporting requirements to potential creditor issues and IRS levies. Even if each individual risk is manageable, the combination of all these factors makes it clear why keeping your finances separate is the smart choice. I love that the conversation evolved from just answering the tax question to providing actual constructive solutions like credit union fresh start programs and nonprofit financial counseling services. That's exactly the kind of practical help that can turn a difficult situation into an opportunity for your parents to establish better banking relationships going forward. For anyone else reading this who might be in a similar situation - the key takeaway seems to be that helping family members find their own financial solutions is almost always better than getting your own accounts involved, no matter how temporary the arrangement is supposed to be. The short-term convenience is rarely worth the potential long-term complications.
This entire discussion has been such a perfect example of how online communities can provide real value when people share their knowledge and experiences! As someone new to dealing with complex family financial situations, I'm amazed at how many angles there are to consider that I never would have thought of on my own. The progression from "will this create tax problems?" to understanding bank reporting requirements, potential creditor issues, constructive receipt concepts, and ultimately finding constructive solutions like credit union programs really shows the power of collective knowledge. It's clear that the original poster's instinct to be cautious was absolutely right. What I find most valuable is that everyone focused on helping solve the underlying problem rather than just saying "don't do it." The suggestions about credit unions, nonprofit counseling services, and even working with the title company give the family real alternatives to explore. That's the kind of practical help that actually moves people forward instead of just leaving them stuck with the same problem. Thanks to everyone who contributed - this thread is going to be incredibly useful for anyone facing similar situations with family members who need banking help!
I'm SO ANGRY right now! I finally got through to SBTPG yesterday after calling 800-901-6663 and waiting for 1 hour and 22 minutes. The agent confirmed my refund had been sitting in their system since April 2nd, but there was a "verification hold" they never notified me about! They released it immediately after I called and my bank showed the deposit this morning. Don't give up - keep calling until you get answers!
I feel your frustration - went through the same nightmare last month! After reading through all these suggestions, here's what finally worked for me: I called 800-901-6663 at 7:58 AM Eastern (right before they opened) and selected option 1. The key was having ALL my information ready - SSN, exact refund amount, filing date, and the dates from my IRS transcript showing when they sent the refund to SBTPG. When I got through after about 45 minutes, I calmly explained that my refund had been with them for over a week and I needed to know the specific reason for the delay. Turns out there was a "manual review flag" that required a supervisor to clear. The rep escalated it immediately and I had my money 2 days later. Don't let them give you vague answers - ask for specifics about what's holding up YOUR money. You've got this!
This is exactly the kind of detailed advice I needed! I'm definitely going to try calling right at 7:58 AM tomorrow with all my documentation ready. Quick question - when you mentioned the IRS transcript showing dates, did you get that from the IRS website or did you have to request it separately? I want to make sure I have everything they might ask for before I call. Thanks for sharing your success story - it gives me hope that I can get this resolved!
I actually made this transition about 3 years ago and can share some insights on the client relationship aspect that @e96ccd7043d5 asked about. You're absolutely right that the interactions are much more emotionally charged than typical accounting work. The biggest adjustment for me was learning to be both a technical advisor and a counselor. When someone is facing a six-figure penalty or criminal investigation, they need someone who can not only navigate the technical issues but also help them understand the process and manage their anxiety. Law school doesn't really prepare you for this - you learn it on the job. Regarding existing clients, I was surprised that about 40% of my accounting clients did follow me to my new firm when I transitioned. Many had developed trust in my judgment over the years and appreciated having someone who understood both the accounting and legal sides. However, I had to be very careful about conflicts of interest and properly transitioning their ongoing compliance work to other CPAs. The key is positioning yourself as a resource for more complex matters rather than competing with their existing accountants. Now I often work collaboratively with CPAs on cases, which has actually strengthened my professional network rather than burning bridges. One practical tip: if you're serious about this transition, start attending local tax controversy CLEs even before law school. It will give you a realistic preview of the work and help you start building relationships in the legal community.
@d1ebf4b48088 Thank you so much for sharing those practical insights! The 40% client retention rate is much higher than I would have expected - that's really encouraging to hear. I hadn't considered the collaborative approach with CPAs rather than competitive positioning, but that makes so much sense from a business development perspective. Your point about attending tax controversy CLEs before law school is brilliant advice. I'm actually going to look into what's available in my area right now. It sounds like a great way to get a realistic preview while also starting to build those important relationships early. The counselor aspect you mentioned is something I definitely need to think about more seriously. I'm comfortable with technical discussions, but managing client anxiety during high-stakes situations is a completely different skill set. Did you find there were any resources or training that helped you develop those softer skills, or was it really just learned through experience? Also, how do you handle the ethical boundaries between providing legal advice versus accounting guidance when working with clients who might benefit from both types of services? I imagine that line could get complicated, especially during the transition period.
@d1ebf4b48088 This is incredibly helpful insight! The counselor aspect really resonates with me - I can see how managing client anxiety during IRS disputes would require a completely different skill set than our typical tax season interactions. I'm curious about the timeline for developing confidence in handling these high-stress client situations. Was there a particular point where you felt like you'd found your footing with the counseling side, or is it something that continues to evolve with each case? Also, your mention of attending tax controversy CLEs before law school is genius. I'm already looking up what's available in my area. Did you find that having that background knowledge gave you an advantage during law school, particularly in tax courses? I imagine it would help you hit the ground running compared to classmates without that practical exposure. The collaborative relationship with CPAs you described sounds ideal - positioning as a complement rather than competition. That seems like it would lead to more sustainable long-term business relationships too.
I'm a tax attorney who made the transition from public accounting about 5 years ago, and I can definitely relate to your situation! One thing I'd add to the excellent advice already shared is the importance of understanding the different "personalities" of various tax law specialties. Tax controversy work (my current focus) attracts people who enjoy the adversarial process and working under pressure with tight deadlines. Estate planning tends to be more relationship-focused with longer-term client development. Corporate tax law often involves complex transactions and requires strong analytical skills but less direct client counseling. Your accounting background will be invaluable regardless of which direction you choose. I've found that judges and IRS agents take me more seriously when I can speak knowledgeably about the underlying accounting treatment of transactions, not just the legal implications. One practical suggestion: before committing to law school, try to get involved in some pro bono tax work through organizations like the Volunteer Income Tax Assistance program or local legal aid societies. This will give you exposure to the advocacy side of tax work and help you determine if you enjoy representing clients' interests rather than just preparing their returns. The investment is significant, but for me personally, the intellectual stimulation and variety of work has made it absolutely worthwhile. Feel free to reach out if you'd like to discuss specific aspects of the transition!
@5f4249d24ae5 This breakdown of different tax law specialty "personalities" is exactly what I needed to hear! I hadn't thought about how the day-to-day work environment and client interaction style would vary so much between controversy, estate planning, and corporate tax work. Your suggestion about pro bono work is fantastic - I actually volunteer with VITA during tax season already, but I hadn't considered how I could leverage that experience to explore the advocacy side. Are there specific types of cases or situations within those programs where you get more exposure to representing clients rather than just preparing returns? The point about judges and IRS agents taking you more seriously because of your accounting knowledge really resonates. I've noticed even in my current role that having that technical foundation helps build credibility when discussing complex issues with clients. As someone who's clearly found success in this transition, I'm curious - when you were making the decision to leave accounting for law school, what was the single most important factor that convinced you it was the right move? Was it the intellectual challenge, compensation potential, or something else entirely? Thanks for offering to discuss this further - this entire thread has been incredibly valuable for helping me think through all the practical considerations!
Lucas Turner
Just a heads up - make sure none of that $1,260 was for state taxes! Everyone here is talking about federal, but depending on what state you live in, you might have state income tax too. Some states don't have income tax (like Texas and Florida) but if you're in a state that does, the rules might be different.
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Kai Rivera
ā¢Good point! I live in California and I always get confused about state vs federal withholding. Makes a big difference on the refund amount.
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Giovanni Mancini
@Victoria Scott - Based on your situation, you should definitely get most of that $1,260 back! Since your income is under $12,000 and well below the standard deduction, you won't owe federal income tax. Just keep in mind that part of what was withheld might be FICA taxes (Social Security and Medicare) which are about 7.65% of your income - so roughly $918 if you made exactly $12,000. Those aren't refundable. But any federal income tax withheld should come back to you. Also, don't forget to check if you qualify for the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC) - with your income level, you might actually get back MORE than what you paid in! The EITC is a refundable credit that can result in a larger refund than your withholding. For timing, definitely file electronically with direct deposit as others mentioned. 21 days is typical, but early in tax season (January-February) it's often faster.
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Keisha Jackson
ā¢This is really helpful, thank you! I had no idea about the EITC - that sounds amazing if I could actually get back more than I paid in. Is there a minimum number of hours you have to work to qualify for it, or is it just based on income? I've been working about 25-30 hours per week at my job, so I'm hoping that counts. Also, when you mention the FICA taxes not being refundable, does that mean I should expect to only get back around $342 ($1,260 - $918) instead of the full amount?
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