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I learned this the hard way... kept all the profits in my S Corp thinking I wouldn't owe taxes until I took distributions. Got DESTROYED with a huge tax bill and no cash to pay it because all the money was still in the business account. Don't make my mistake!

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Paolo Longo

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Did you at least get any benefit from keeping the money in the business? Like better loan terms or anything?

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Julia Hall

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This is exactly why proper planning is so important with S Corps! Since you're getting taxed on the profits regardless of whether you take distributions, you need to make sure you have enough cash flow to cover your tax liability. One strategy I've seen work well is to take quarterly distributions specifically to cover your estimated tax payments on the S Corp income. That way you're not stuck with a big tax bill and no cash to pay it like Keisha mentioned. Also, remember that if you're building reserves for business expenses, those retained earnings increase your basis in the S Corp, which can be helpful if you ever need to take losses or sell the business. But definitely don't let tax planning take a backseat to cash flow management - you'll need liquidity to pay those taxes!

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This is really helpful advice! I'm actually in a similar situation as Sofia where I'm trying to build up business reserves. Julia, when you mention taking quarterly distributions to cover estimated taxes - do you typically calculate that as a percentage of the S Corp profits, or is there a more precise way to figure out exactly how much to distribute? I want to make sure I'm setting aside enough for taxes without taking more than necessary out of the business cash flow.

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Has anyone had issues with exchanges that don't record the time zone in their transaction exports? Most of my CSV exports just show dates without time zones and I'm not sure if they're using UTC or what.

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Dylan Cooper

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This drove me crazy last year! Most exchanges use UTC in their backend systems but their CSV exports are inconsistent. I ended up having to manually adjust a bunch of transactions that happened around midnight on Dec 31. Some platforms like Coinbase Pro at least note the time zone in their reports, but smaller exchanges are all over the place.

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I had the same problem with Kraken and Binance exports showing timestamps without time zones. What I did was cross-reference the timestamps with my email confirmations from the exchanges, which usually include proper time zone info. Also, if you log into your exchange account, the transaction history in the web interface often shows your local time zone even if the CSV export doesn't. It's tedious but helped me sort out which side of midnight my year-end trades actually fell on.

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Ethan Wilson

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This is such a helpful thread! I've been dealing with the same confusion about time zones for my crypto taxes. One thing I wanted to add - if you're keeping manual records, make sure to note not just the timestamp but also your physical location for any trades made while traveling. I learned this the hard way when I had to reconstruct my 2023 taxes after getting audited. The IRS agent specifically asked about a few trades I made during a business trip to Chicago right around New Year's. Thankfully I had kept travel receipts that proved where I was, but it would have been much easier if I had just noted my location in my trading spreadsheet from the beginning. Also, for anyone using DeFi protocols or DEXs, the same rules apply - it's based on your physical location when you initiate the transaction, not where the blockchain nodes are located. Just wanted to clarify that since I see a lot of confusion about this in other crypto tax forums.

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TommyKapitz

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This is really valuable advice about keeping location records! I never thought about noting my physical location for trades, but it makes total sense especially for people who travel frequently. Quick question - when you got audited, did the IRS specifically look for documentation of your location, or was that something you proactively provided? I'm wondering how detailed I need to be with my record-keeping. Like, do I need to save hotel receipts and flight confirmations for every trip where I might make trades, or is it enough to just note the city/time zone in my trading log? Also, thanks for clarifying about DeFi - I use Uniswap and a few other DEXs and was wondering if those transactions would be treated differently since they're on-chain rather than through traditional exchanges.

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Adriana Cohn

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Just a heads up - I'm from Spain too and distribute music through CD Baby. When I submitted my W-8BEN claiming the 0% rate, they rejected it the first time saying I needed to include my Spanish tax identification number (NIE) as well as get an ITIN from the US. Had to resubmit with both numbers.

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How long did it take you to get an ITIN? I've been waiting for mine for like 3 months after submitting Form W-7. During that time I'm stuck paying the full 30% withholding.

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Mei Liu

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I went through this exact same situation last year with my music royalties from Spain! The confusion about 0% vs 5% rates comes from different types of royalties being grouped together in some documents. For copyright royalties specifically (which includes music compositions), Spain does have a 0% withholding rate under Article 12 of the US-Spain tax treaty. The 5% rate you're seeing likely refers to industrial royalties or patents. A couple of important things I learned the hard way: 1. You absolutely need an ITIN to claim treaty benefits - the form will be rejected without it 2. Make sure to write "Copyright Royalties" specifically in line 10, not just "royalties" 3. Keep copies of everything because some distributors will ask you to resubmit the form annually The process took me about 4 months total (mostly waiting for the ITIN), but it was worth it to avoid that 30% withholding. Good luck with your $1,200 payment - that's a nice chunk of change to not lose to unnecessary taxes!

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Thanks for sharing your experience! This is super helpful. Quick question - when you applied for your ITIN, did you have to send original documents or were certified copies acceptable? I'm nervous about mailing my original passport to the IRS and having it get lost. Also, did you use the Certifying Acceptance Agent route or mail everything directly to the IRS? I've heard the CAA route is faster but more expensive.

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StarSeeker

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Don't forget about city/county tax jurisdictions! Depends on your state, but where I am we have state, county AND city sales taxes - all with different rates and filing requirements. Almost screwed myself over by only filing state taxes my first year.

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Ava Martinez

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Omg yes, THIS. I'm in Colorado and we have like 7 different sales tax jurisdictions depending on the exact address. It's a total nightmare. I used to think I could just charge one rate for everything.

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Asher Levin

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As someone who's been through this exact confusion with my small bakery, I feel your pain! The biggest lightbulb moment for me was realizing that sales tax is literally just a collection service - you're collecting money on behalf of the state, not paying a tax on your business income. Think of it this way: when a customer pays you $10.80 for a $10 meal, you actually received $10 in revenue for your business and $0.80 that belongs to the state. That $0.80 should go straight to a separate "sales tax collected" account and get sent to the state exactly as collected. Your business expenses (food costs, delivery app fees, etc.) are completely separate and get deducted when you file your income tax returns, not your sales tax returns. Two totally different forms for two totally different purposes. Most states have pretty good online resources for new business owners - definitely worth checking your state's revenue department website for restaurant-specific guidance. Also, many states offer free workshops for new business owners that cover sales tax basics. Hang in there!

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Alfredo Lugo

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This is such a helpful way to think about it! The "collection service" analogy really clicked for me. I've been making this way more complicated than it needs to be. Quick question though - when you mention keeping the sales tax in a separate account, do you mean literally a different bank account? Or just tracking it separately in my bookkeeping? I've just been lumping everything together in one business checking account and trying to figure out the math later. Also, did you find your state's workshops actually useful? I saw some listed on my state's website but wasn't sure if they'd be too basic or actually cover the restaurant-specific stuff we deal with.

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PaulineW

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It might be worth asking your grandparents to spread out larger gifts if they're planning to give you more than the annual limit. My parents paid off $25,000 of my loans in one year and had to file a gift tax form even though they didn't owe any actual tax!

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Did your parents end up having to file a special form or anything? My mom wants to help with my loans but is worried about "paperwork headaches" as she calls it, lol.

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Yes, they had to file Form 709 (Gift Tax Return) because they exceeded the $18,000 annual exclusion limit in one year. The good news is that filing the form doesn't mean they owed any taxes - it just counted against their lifetime gift and estate tax exemption (which is over $13 million per person). The form itself wasn't too complicated, but it did require them to report the gift and keep records. Your mom might want to consider spreading larger gifts across multiple years to avoid the paperwork entirely. For example, if she wants to give $30,000 total, she could give $15,000 this year and $15,000 next year to stay under the annual limits.

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Miguel Diaz

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This is such helpful information for anyone dealing with family help on student loans! One thing I'd add is to make sure your grandparents are aware that the $18,000 annual exclusion is per recipient, per giver. So if they're also helping other grandchildren with education expenses, they need to track all their gifts to stay under the limits for each person. Also, it's worth keeping simple records of the payments even though you don't need to report them - just in case the IRS ever has questions down the road. A simple spreadsheet showing dates and amounts should be sufficient. Your loan servicer statements will also show where the payments came from, which provides good documentation. You're really fortunate to have such generous grandparents! This kind of help can save you thousands in interest over the life of the loans.

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This is such great advice about keeping records! I'm just starting to navigate this whole situation and hadn't thought about the documentation aspect. Quick question - when you mention tracking gifts to multiple recipients, does that mean if my grandparents help both me and my sister with our loans, they could potentially give us each up to $18,000 per year without any reporting requirements? That would be amazing if true! Also, totally agree about how fortunate I am. I know not everyone has family who can help like this, and I'm trying to make sure I handle it properly so I don't waste their generosity on avoidable tax issues.

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