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As someone who's been lurking here for a while but finally created an account because this thread is SO helpful - thank you everyone for breaking down these confusing rules! I'm in a similar situation with divorced parents but mine never remarried, which I thought would make things simpler... turns out it doesn't! My dad claims me on taxes but my mom pays for most of my day-to-day expenses. From reading all your responses, it sounds like I need to focus on who claimed me for 2023 taxes specifically. One thing I'm still confused about - if the supporting parent determination is based on who provides more than 50% of support, but the tax dependency might not match that, which one takes priority for Excelsior? @Kolton mentioned submitting an affidavit when these don't align, but I'm wondering how often HESC actually accepts those explanations vs just going with the tax return info? Also, has anyone successfully appealed an Excelsior denial? I'm worried I might be borderline on the income limit and want to know if there's a realistic path forward if the initial application gets rejected. Thanks again to everyone who's shared their experiences - this community is literally saving my sanity during application season! 💙
Welcome to the community @Andre! I'm new here too but this thread has been a lifesaver for understanding these confusing rules. From what I've gathered reading everyone's experiences, it seems like the tax dependency is usually the starting point for Excelsior, but HESC will consider additional documentation if the actual financial support doesn't match up. @Kolton's affidavit approach sounds like a good strategy when these don't align. I'm in a somewhat similar boat - still trying to figure out if my family's income puts us over the $135k AGI limit. The good news from what others have shared is that it's worth applying even if you're borderline, since they do sometimes consider special circumstances. As for appeals, I haven't gone through that process personally, but I've heard they can take forever to process. Hopefully someone else here has experience with that? Good luck with your application! At least we're all figuring this out together. The documentation requirements sound intense but everyone who's gotten through it says it's worth the effort if you qualify.
Hey everyone! I just went through this exact same process last year and wanted to share what finally worked for me after months of confusion. The biggest breakthrough was when I realized that for Excelsior, you need to look at THREE things in this order: 1. Who claimed you as a dependent on 2023 taxes (this is usually the default) 2. Who actually provided more than 50% of your financial support during 2023 3. If these don't match, you can submit documentation to prove the actual support situation In my case, my parents alternated tax years but my mom consistently paid for housing, food, and health insurance (the big expenses), so she was clearly my supporting parent even when my dad claimed me on taxes. For the income calculation, make sure you're looking at Line 11 on Form 1040 (Adjusted Gross Income), NOT the total income. This made a huge difference for my family since my stepdad has significant retirement contributions that lowered our AGI below the $135k threshold. Also, don't stress too much about the NY residency requirement - I talked to my school's career services and they said there are tons of good opportunities throughout the state, plus there are provisions for deferrals if you can't find work immediately. The documentation process is tedious but totally manageable if you stay organized. Start gathering everything now and apply even if you're not 100% sure about eligibility. The worst they can say is no, but you might be surprised! Good luck @Sasha and everyone else applying! This community has been so helpful for navigating these confusing rules. 🍀
This is such a clear and helpful breakdown @Emma! I'm new to this community but have been following this thread closely as I navigate my own Excelsior application with divorced parents. Your three-step approach makes so much sense - starting with the tax dependency as the default but being able to document the actual support situation if it's different. That gives me hope since my situation is similar to yours where the parent who claims me on taxes isn't necessarily the one providing the most day-to-day support. The tip about looking specifically at Line 11 (AGI) instead of total income is huge! I hadn't realized how much retirement contributions and other deductions could lower that number. I'm definitely going to double-check my family's 2023 tax returns with this in mind. Thanks for the reassurance about the NY residency requirement too. I've been so stressed about committing to stay in NY after graduation, but you're right that there are opportunities throughout the state and some flexibility if needed. Question for you - when you submitted documentation about the actual support situation, what format did that take? Was it just a letter explaining the circumstances or did you need specific forms/receipts? This whole thread has been incredibly helpful for a confusing process. Thanks for sharing your successful experience! 🙏
my brother jus went thru this whole mess. its so annoying they changed everything!! he had to wait 3 1/2 weeks to get his loans. the new fafsa is such a disaster this year smh
I'm going through the exact same thing right now! Just submitted my FAFSA last week and was so confused when I only saw my SAI and Pell Grant info. I kept refreshing the page thinking it was a glitch. This thread is super helpful - at least now I know it's normal and not something wrong with my application. Going to call my school's financial aid office tomorrow to ask about their timeline. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences!
Same boat here! I submitted mine about 10 days ago and was totally lost when I didn't see any loan information. This whole thread has been a lifesaver - I had no idea about all these FAFSA changes. Definitely calling my school's financial aid office this week too. It's reassuring to know so many of us are going through the same confusion!
I'm new to this community but going through the same nightmare right now! Our FAFSA estimator showed an SAI of around 1,100, but after reading through all these experiences I'm genuinely scared about what the actual number will be. We just submitted our FAFSA last week and I'm already losing sleep over this. What really gets me is how the Department of Education can have such a broken estimator tool. If they know it's not accurate, why not fix it or at least put a big disclaimer warning people that the actual results could be THOUSANDS of dollars different? We've been making college planning decisions based on that estimate for months. I'm definitely taking everyone's advice here about screenshots and documentation. Already went back and captured everything from our estimator session. Also bookmarked that Claimyr service mentioned by @Katherine Shultz just in case we need to actually get through to FSA later. Has anyone tried reaching out to their congressional representative's office for help with FAFSA issues? I've heard they sometimes have staff who can help navigate federal agency problems, but not sure if that applies to situations like this. At this point I'm willing to try anything if our actual SAI comes back way higher than expected. Thank you all for sharing your experiences - this thread should be required reading for anyone using the FAFSA estimator!
@Amina Bah, I completely understand your frustration and anxiety - this whole process is so stressful! Your idea about reaching out to congressional representatives is actually really smart. I've heard they can sometimes help with federal agency issues, though I'm not sure how much they can do with FAFSA calculations specifically. But it might be worth a try if you do end up with a huge discrepancy that you can't get resolved through normal channels. One thing that's been giving me some peace of mind after reading through this thread is that even if the actual SAI comes back higher than the estimate, it doesn't necessarily mean you're out of options. Several people mentioned professional judgment reviews for special circumstances, and @Micah Trail pointed out that SAIs under 6000 still typically qualify for significant federal aid. So even if your 1,100 estimate turns into something like 2,500-3,000, you d'still be in the range for substantial aid. I m'in the same boat - submitted our FAFSA recently and trying not to panic while we wait for results. At least now we all know to expect potential surprises and have plans in place for dealing with them. Keep us posted on how your actual results compare to the estimate!
This entire thread has been incredibly eye-opening and honestly both helpful and terrifying at the same time! I'm a parent of a high school senior and we're right in the middle of this process. Our FAFSA estimator showed an SAI of around 1,650, which we were cautiously optimistic about, but after reading everyone's experiences here I'm realizing we need to prepare for the possibility that it could be significantly higher. A few things I'm taking away from this discussion: 1) Screenshot everything from the estimator (doing this right now!), 2) Be extra careful about how student assets are reported since they're weighted so much higher, 3) Keep detailed documentation ready in case we need to appeal or request professional judgment, and 4) Have that Claimyr service bookmarked just in case we need to actually reach a human at FSA. The business asset complications that several people mentioned are particularly concerning since we have a small consulting business. It sounds like this could be a major factor in discrepancies that I hadn't even considered. One question for the group - for those who did find significant errors or got discrepancies resolved, how long did the correction process typically take? We're trying to finalize college decisions and financial aid packages, so timing could be really important if we need to go through an appeal process. Thanks to everyone for sharing their real experiences - this is exactly the kind of practical information that's impossible to find in official guides!
@Kayla Morgan, you're asking all the right questions! As someone who just went through this process with my daughter, I wanted to share what I learned about timing for corrections/appeals. From what I experienced and gathered from others in similar situations, the timeline can vary quite a bit depending on the type of issue. If it's a clear data entry error on FSA's end, those can sometimes be corrected within 2-3 weeks once you actually get through to someone who can help. Professional judgment reviews for special circumstances typically take longer - anywhere from 4-8 weeks depending on the school and how complete your documentation is. The key thing is to start the process immediately if your actual SAI comes back way different from your estimate. Don't wait to see if you can "live with it" because these processes take time and college deposit deadlines don't wait. Also, keep in mind that professional judgment reviews are done by individual colleges, not centrally through FSA, so you may need to submit to each school separately. The consulting business angle you mentioned definitely warrants extra attention - business assets and income can be treated very differently than personal finances. Good luck with your results!
I'm new here and just wanted to say this thread has been a lifesaver! I'm literally filling out my FAFSA right now and was having the exact same panic about timing. My account is super low after paying tuition and rent, but I have a work-study paycheck coming next Friday. I was seriously considering waiting to submit until after that deposit hits, but after reading everyone's experiences I realize I was way overthinking it. It's honestly so comforting to know that basically every FAFSA applicant goes through this same timing stress - makes me feel way less alone in all the anxiety! Definitely going to take that screenshot tip and just report my current balance. Thanks everyone for sharing your stories, this community is amazing for helping nervous first-timers like me!
Welcome to the community! I'm also pretty new to all this FAFSA stuff and was having the exact same freak-out about timing. It's honestly so reassuring to see that literally everyone goes through this same panic - I was convinced I was the only one overthinking every single detail! Reading through all these responses has really helped calm my nerves. The screenshot tip is genius and I'm definitely doing that too. Good luck with your application!
Hey! I'm totally new to this whole FAFSA thing and honestly this thread has been such a relief to read through. I'm in almost the exact same situation - my account is sitting at like $67 right now after paying my credit card and phone bill, but I'm expecting my financial aid refund from last semester in about a week or two. I was literally about to post the same question because I've been stressing about this for days! It's so comforting to see that basically everyone goes through this exact same timing panic. I was imagining all these scary scenarios where they'd think I was trying to hide money or something, but it sounds like this is just a normal part of the process. Definitely going to follow everyone's advice - report what I actually have right now, take that screenshot, and stop overthinking it. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences, you've all helped a very anxious first-timer feel so much better about this whole process!
Chloe Martin
No separate applications needed for federal aid! The FAFSA is your one-stop application for Pell Grants, federal loans, and work-study. However, there are a few exceptions: - State grants sometimes require additional forms (check your state's higher education website) - Some schools require the CSS Profile for institutional aid (mainly private colleges) - Scholarships usually have separate applications But for the basic federal aid package including Pell Grants, the FAFSA is all you need. Just make sure she responds quickly if they request verification documents.
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Freya Thomsen
•Thank you so much! This makes me feel a lot better about her situation. I'll share all this with her tonight.
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Mohammad Khaled
Your cousin is in a really good position! An SAI of 1285 with multiple siblings in college puts her in excellent territory for financial aid. At State University with $22k annual costs, she'll likely see her out-of-pocket expenses drop significantly. Here's what to expect: - Strong Pell Grant eligibility (probably $5,000-6,000 range) - Subsidized federal loans with better terms - Potential state grants depending on your state - Work-study opportunities The key thing is that having multiple siblings in college simultaneously really helps lower the family contribution expectations. Make sure she's listed all her schools on the FAFSA and watches for any verification requests in her email. The financial aid packages should start arriving with acceptance letters in the coming months. She's definitely not screwed - quite the opposite!
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